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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:33 am to CharlotteSooner
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:33 am to CharlotteSooner
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Can anybody show me all the players aggot and mizzou lost to injury in their first season in your league "cuz of dat SEC griiinnd"?
It's harder to play teams that are better and have better players than it is to play a schedule with worse teams with worse players. The bottom half of the SEC has better players across the board than the bottom half of every other league. Playing those teams is more difficult than playing the bottom half teams of other leagues in general.
This isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Oklahoma and Texas will be fine, just like Alabama and Georgia and LSU are. But they'll play more talented players in a bigger, more boisterous stadium when they play the #8 team in the SEC than they did when they played the #8 team in the Big XII. They'll still win most of the time.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:34 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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No they wouldn’t, because they wouldn’t recruit like they do in the SEC.
they are still in the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. I don't even think Auburn, OM, Miss St., USCe for examples are "middle of the pack" programs but they have to contend with Bama, UGA, LSU, and Florida every year. Those teams have plenty of talent it's the depth that is the issue.
OU and Texas fans seem to think coming to the SEC will be an easy transition, I think most of the fans saying this are trying to make themselves feel better rather than accepting it will be a tougher road to win championships.
Do you not remember what has happened to the BIG 12 champs twice in 5 years when playing the SEC champion in the playoffs?
2022 big 12 champ lost 65-7 to sec champ
2021 no big 12 team in playoff
2020 no big 12 team in playoff
2019 LSU beat big 12 champ 63-28
2018 big 12 lost
2017 big 12 lost
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:35 am to VYForever
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did you miss my qualifier that I said in the modern NIL/transfer portal era?
So you think that Texas Tech and Auburn will start being equals in how much talent they send to the next level moving forward?
Works out for you that you are arguing a future event, but even so I can pretty much guarantee that won't be the case.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:35 am to VYForever
Auburn currently has 25 players with $100k+ NIL deals. Texas Tech has 5.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:36 am to RollingwiththeTide
It tells me out-recruiting everybody in your conference doesn't mean you're going to steamroll them to an undefeated season, just like everywhere else.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:36 am to CharlotteSooner
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Anybody have any actual DATA that shows there's "more attrition in the SEC" than other leagues besides mindless shite-talking on this forum?
I want to see actual data compared to other conferences going back to 2012. Let's see it.
While somebody looks that up (I would be interested to see as well) realize that the SEC is also deeper. You go back to 2012 so the SEC since 2012 has won the NC 7 times and played for it 3 additional times. Only once was there not an SEC team in the finals.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:36 am to VYForever
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And if Texas wilts like a flower in Texas heat, then I guess we will agree this is true.
If the opposite happens, that Texas is able to withstand the abuse of an SEC schedule, I doubt you same posters (and especially fans of the also-rans bottom half of the conference) will ever admit being wrong and just move the goal posts to "Texas has an easy schedule this year!" which I'm already seeing threads about.
But it makes one think, if SEC is such a challenge top to bottom, how can an SEC schedule be anything but difficult? No such thing as an easy SEC schedule, or true Scotsman...
Is anybody in here saying Texas is going to fall apart? I sure don't think they are going to - they are as well built to play week in and week out in the SEC in their current form as just about any team I can think of not currently in the SEC. Sark has built a deep roster that is loaded up front on both sides.
But they'll have more issues than they did in the BXII, just like Alabama or Georgia do. Doesn't mean they'll lose 4 games or something. I can pretty much guarantee you Sark would agree.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:37 am to Topwater Trout
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OU and Texas fans seem to think coming to the SEC will be an easy transition
I haven't seen a single OU fan anywhere who says or believes this.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:37 am to TideFaninFl
We’re not even officially in the offseason.
If this is any indicator, tSECR is gonna be a shite show of epic proportions until the start of 2024.
If this is any indicator, tSECR is gonna be a shite show of epic proportions until the start of 2024.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It's harder to play teams that are better and have better players than it is to play a schedule with worse teams with worse players. The bottom half of the SEC has better players across the board than the bottom half of every other league. Playing those teams is more difficult than playing the bottom half teams of other leagues in general.
You can produce 3 NFL draft picks just about every year and still be a shite team. Do you technically have a more talented team than a Kansas? I guess, but you're still a shite team.
Cal and UCLA have consistently produced NFL draft picks too.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:40 am to dkreller
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tSECR is gonna be a shite show of epic proportions until the start of 2024
At least we’ll have a lot of great bookmarks for when the season does start. I’ve got this one favorited.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:42 am to PerrillouxToTexas
Texas has always been a top recruiter, but have historically underachieved with it. That is a Texas thing I guess.
Texas and OU will have big seasons, like the LSU's and Florida's. But just like those teams they will have a lot of 9 and 8 win years as well.
Texas and OU will have big seasons, like the LSU's and Florida's. But just like those teams they will have a lot of 9 and 8 win years as well.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:42 am to CharlotteSooner
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I haven't seen a single OU fan anywhere who says or believes this.
I have seen plenty of OU fans saying they would come in and wreck shite...there are other forms of social media besides the rant.
I will say in genral the OU fans seem to be more realistic and respectful...the Texas fans act uppity and it makes sec fans think WTF have they done in the BIG 12 to act this way
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:43 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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The fact that more schools have had title seasons means Texas, OU are less likely to have title seasons?
When Texas or Oklahoma got to the title or playoff game, did they win? If not, who beat them?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:44 am to Topwater Trout
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I have seen plenty of OU fans saying they would come in and wreck shite...there are other forms of social media besides the rant.
Well....show us that, Sparky. I've never seen it. Lets see it.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:45 am to CharlotteSooner
Everyone in the SEC has athletes starting. Everyone has NFL caliber starters. The difference in teams like Bama and Georgia is the depth. Just because you stockpile athletes doesn’t guarantee a win every week. Going on the road in the SEC matters. If a team like Bama or UGA doesn’t go out and dominate teams early then they end up in a fist fight to win. Going through this every week is why Bama and Georgia will dominate the National title game every year.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:50 am to RollingwiththeTide
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Everyone in the SEC has athletes starting.
Well I would hope so.
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Everyone has NFL caliber starters.
Like most teams.
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The difference in teams like Bama and Georgia is the depth. Just because you stockpile athletes doesn’t guarantee a win every week.
That's what I said.
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Going on the road in the SEC matters. If a team like Bama or UGA doesn’t go out and dominate teams early then they end up in a fist fight to win.
Just like everybody else.
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Going through this every week is why Bama and Georgia will dominate the National title game every year.
Neither of you have dominated the national title game every year. Georgia barely escaped a playoff loss to the Buckeyes last year and went on to dominate an overmatched TCU. That's what I remember.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:50 am to VYForever
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Spoiler Alert: Auburn IS a Texas Tech type school in the age of NIL and transfer portal.
Lol this guy doesn't know shite.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:50 am to VYForever
OP - the SEC may not be full of great teams every year but it’s full of great players that can matchup and beat you up physical - that is the physical guantlet.
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Players on NFL rosters by conference:
SEC 367
Big Ten 288
ACC 213
Big 12 207
Pac-12 178
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