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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:57 am to VYForever
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:57 am to VYForever
There's a lot that goes into that but the short version is this. Acc has clem and fsu, big 12 has tex ou, big ten has mich psu osu, pac has usc Oregon. When you have those caliber teams just one can cost you three games. When you play these teams often you over look previous opponent and have hangover for getting up for the next opponent. Plus you still have to beat the powerhouse school. Fortunately most conferences only see one of those teams bc they're so few. In the sec there are six power houses not including texas atm. so you're usually guaranteed three of those games.
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:58 am to VYForever
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In short; why do teams like A&M and Mizzou and Miss St and UK and Tenn and Auburn love the “SEC is a gauntlet” mythos?
Not sure what you mean here, but we have an even record with Texas at 2-2, a 4-3-1 record against Texas Tech, and a 9-8 record against Texas A&M. All schools with way more money and resources.
If we're discussing mythos, what about this whole idea that the state of Texas is good at football?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:59 am to VYForever
No one knows what you are talking about. The problem in the SEC is you can't just play 2 big games a year and then a bunch of Texas Tech type schools. Your next game is an Ole Miss which would be a top 3 program in the BIG 12.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:59 am to bamabaseballsec
Basically it's not about having to beat miss state or arky or usce, it's about having to beat them on the heels of a banger with bama or uga lsu etc
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:59 am to VYForever
I mean he is right. Kansas isnt in the SEC
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:59 am to VYForever
Also just for reference, Steve Spurrier, PHil Fulmer, and Nick Saban have COMBINED for 9 undefeated SEC seasons across 50 seasons of coaching (I didn't include spurrier at SC). Those are 3 of the league's best coaches that engineered 3 of the league's best runs from 1990-present.
Is sarkisian as good as spurrer/fulmer/saban? Is texas as good as 1990s Florida/Tennessee and modern day alabama?
Is sarkisian as good as spurrer/fulmer/saban? Is texas as good as 1990s Florida/Tennessee and modern day alabama?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:59 am to Jobu93
Anybody have any actual DATA that shows there's "more attrition in the SEC" than other leagues besides mindless shite-talking on this forum?
I want to see actual data compared to other conferences going back to 2012. Let's see it.
I want to see actual data compared to other conferences going back to 2012. Let's see it.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:00 am to VYForever
Because the teams you mention are historically better than Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU and Kansas.
Take the top 8 teams of the Big 12 and compare their historical records to:
Alabama
Georgia
Tennessee
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Take the top 8 teams of the Big 12 and compare their historical records to:
Alabama
Georgia
Tennessee
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:00 am to RoyalAir
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Tall shite about SC all you want. We're well used to it.
Historically, we ruin someone's season every year. Even when we're mediocre as grits.
Facts! Get your best coach ready, because we notoriously get coaches canned!
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:02 am to VYForever
In the last 20 years a SEC team has won the Natty 14 times. 5 different SEC teams. In the last 70 years teams that Oklahoma and Texas shared a conference with won 6 Natty's...and all 6 was either won by Oklahoma or Texas. If you extend the SEC through that same 70 year period the SEC has split 9 Natty's between 4 teams. So in 70 years the SEC has won 29 nattys split among 5 teams. Oklahoma and Texas conferences have won 6. Thats where it comes from. It is a different world playing Florida and Auburn and Georgia back to back than it is Baylor, Kansas and Texas Tech....but y'all will know.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:02 am to Shea Vinnerbush
quote:Baylor just finished 3-9
Sure you consistently played teams that were recently in NY6 bowl games like Baylor, TCU, Kansas State and Oklahoma State,
TCU's 5-7
Kansas St lost to Missouri this year
Oklahoma St's 9-win team lost to South Alabama this year
none of the b12 teams are NY6 caliber except in rare outlier seasons -
eta - the SEC gauntlet is not just the physical demands that challenges roster depth each week - it's the mental aspect of not only having to beat the team you play - but the hordes of natives that show up to actively participate with the sole purpose of destroying your team's will to win that game - Nashville being the only exception -
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:04 am to Haricougar
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Take the top 8 teams of the Big 12 and compare their historical records to:
Alabama
Georgia
Tennessee - bad since '99
LSU - up and down but really good when up
Florida - current dumpster fire
Auburn - ungood
Ole Miss - laughing
Texas A&M - laughing harder
LOL
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:05 am to VYForever
Teams that have won
a natty since bcs
acc-clem fsu Mia
Big ten-osu
Big 12-ou tex
Pac-usc
Sec-bama auburn lsu flor uga tenn. This also doesn't make things easier
a natty since bcs
acc-clem fsu Mia
Big ten-osu
Big 12-ou tex
Pac-usc
Sec-bama auburn lsu flor uga tenn. This also doesn't make things easier
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:05 am to VYForever
Too much writing.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:09 am to bamabaseballsec
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bama auburn lsu flor uga tenn
The fact that more schools have had title seasons means Texas, OU are less likely to have title seasons?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:11 am to VYForever
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In short; why do teams like A&M and Mizzou and Miss St and UK and Tenn and Auburn love the “SEC is a gauntlet” mythos?short; why do teams like A&M and Mizzou and Miss St and UK and Tenn and Auburn love the “SEC is a gauntlet” mythos?
Because it is a gauntlet for many of those aforementioned teams just as it would be for at least 95% of the teams across the country.
Take Auburn for example. They play Alabama, LSU, and Georgia EVERY year not to mention at least one other SEC West team that's a Top 15 team in any given year (in recent years usually either Ole Miss, A&M, or Mississippi State). That's 4 conference games against Top 15 teams (usually 3 of which are Top 10 teams) guaranteed every season.
More often than not it takes 2 full seasons or more of conference games for either Texas or OU to face 4 conference opponents ranked that highly.
Auburn faced the #4, #6, #11, and #13 ranked teams in the country just this season. When was the last time any Big 12 team faced 4 conference opponents ranked they highly in a single season?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:11 am to VYForever
Oh Grasshopper you just do not understand. Give it a couple of seasons in the SEC and you will understand. When you have to go to Tuscaloosa this week and the go to Jordan Hare the next week and then to Baton Rouge and so on and so on it gets really hard. All those places I named is hard. There are no off weeks in the SEC. It’s hard to go undefeated in the SEC which is why Georgia winning 2 straight years was a big arse deal.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:12 am to VYForever
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:12 am to Shea Vinnerbush
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Baylor, TCU, Kansas State and Oklahoma State
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:14 am to VYForever
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VYForever
Kentucky gonna beat that arse next season!
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