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re: The reason Kirby hates us so much.

Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:25 am to
Posted by meltbich
Canton, Ga
Member since Jan 2023
47 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:25 am to
Is this the same Spurrier who quit in the middle of a season? Y'all are glorifying a coach who is a quitter.

Seems legit.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1991 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:29 am to
Maybe, because that rivalry with FSU is still competitive. I don't mean that in a condescending way, but ask the GT fans around here in north Ga and all any of them want these days is to get UGA off the schedule. Its not a rivalry to them anymore. A rivalry turns into agony when it loses its fun.
The problem for UF is, FSU seems to be getting their act together. If ol Billy can't pump some life back into the program and return some relevance to the team, that "rivalry" is going to start turning into an annual 'red-headed-step-child' thing before long, the way it is with UGA now...in other words, it's gonna lose any semblance of fun. When fun turns to dread, the rivalry is gone.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1205 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:31 am to
Let's count Kirby's and Steve's national championship trophies.
Posted by redandblackattack
Spring Hill florida
Member since Nov 2012
2193 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:38 am to
Hmmm , I’d consider myself a real uga fan and I’m 46 , have 2 degrees from uga and actually played athletics at uga and I’m from South Georgia and despite tech becoming a nothingburger I’d still have them as our number 1 rival. Winning against them doesn’t do much for me but a loss is devastating. I could see a 1a 1b thing with tech and Florida. So I guess I’d disagree with your opinion but I can respect it.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:42 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:46 am to
And the reason spurrier hates us so much is the exact same reason you just mentiond for kirby. Becuase UGA kicked his arse repeatedly as a player.

In 1966 it had all come together for UF. As you may recall UF wasn't much to speak about until around the mid-80s, and then really didn't take off until the 90s nearly 100 years after they began playing football. So you can imagin the hype in 1966 as spurrier as a senior looked to really break the ceiling. He had a great year and would eventually go on to win the heisman but of course UF was thinking national title. UF was undefeated at 7-0 heading into jacksonville and had memories of 2 years prior on their mind. 1965 both teams were meh so UF's 4 point win wasn't much to write home about. But in 1964 UF was 5-1 and ranked in the top 10 heading into Jax to face an unranked UGA that had alrady lost twice and tied once. UGA would go on to pull off the upset.

So fast forward back to 1966. Spurrier revenge tour. This is the year UF is going to embarrass the shite out of UGA and get payback and make things right. There was just one problme though: Bill Stanfill.

"If I wasn't sacking Spurrier, I was knocking him down," said Stanfill. "He just didn't have time to throw.

"We kicked Spurrier's arse," Stanfill told the Athens Banner-Herald in 2004. "I still think I'm one of the reasons why he hates us so much. I was pounding his butt whether he had the ball or not all day long. They were undefeated."

"We had pigs, too," Stanfill told a black tie crowd at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York in 1998. "It was my job to go out there and catch a 35 to 45 pound male and drag him back to where my dad was waiting with a straight-edged razor blade. I'd put my knee on that pig's neck and hold his back legs apart and it would be just a-squeelin.' I mean, you just couldn't believe the squeelin.' My dad would take that razor and castrate him, then I'd put a little burnt motor oil over the incision and let him go. That pig would pop up and run away just a-squeelin' some more. Folks, that didn't really prepare me for football but it reminded me an awful lot of sacking Steve Spurrier."


And I'll leave you with this:

Spurrier's HC record against UGA: 16-7 (69.5%)
Kirby's HC records against UF: 5 (and counting) - 2 (71%)

Hmmmm



Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Spurrier's HC record against UGA: 16-7 (69.5%)
Kirby's HC records against UF: 5 (and counting) - 2 (71%)

Including Spurrier's time at SCar? Hmm, indeed.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3279 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:50 am to
Bragging because Vince Dooley was a spineless rat isn’t the brag you think it is.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3279 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:52 am to
It’s Billy’s second full cycle and he’s already recruiting at a higher level than Norvell. UF will be back. Just need patience.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Including Spurrier's time at SCar?


yeah, why not? Bcuase it doesn't relfect what you want it to?

The topic is "why does spurrier hate uga". The answer is because uga whooped his arse as a player, so in typical grumpy old man fashion he's held a hateful grudge about it until he's on his deathbed.

Waht I find funny is that when spurrier coached an elite school (at the time) agaisnt uga with ray goff and jim donnan it's "man he owns uga!" but when spurrier coached a not so elite school when we had richt and an overall upgrade in talent and coaching in general and he didn't do as well its' "oh, well that's just because he was at SC who cares" Dont' pretend that after kirby runs up a dozen or so more wins over UF that if he retired to liek ole miss or something and UF beat up on him some while there y'all wouldn't make note of it

This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:54 am to
So you're saying there's no difference between coaching at UGA and coaching at SCar.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6543 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:59 am to
That was a loooong time ago. Quit living in the past. Fat, dumb and lazy ain’t no way to go through life.
Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
791 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:01 am to
You probably don't see the irony in your post. Spurrier hated UGA because we made his life miserable as a UF QB. That provided ample motivation for him to go after UGA as hard as he could, and things worked out well. Guess what's happening now?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:02 am to
quote:

o you're saying there's no difference between coaching at UGA and coaching at SCar


I'm saying 90s UF compared ot 90s UGA is a massive difference, just like UGA most times to SC most times is a massive difference.

Of course you can see that, but you love to twist words around
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2542 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:03 am to
quote:

They're easily our second biggest rival and we're easily their first.


As long as Kirby sees it that way, and continues to beat Florida, I’m good with that comparison.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:03 am to
quote:

just like UGA most times to SC most times is a massive difference.


Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1991 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:04 am to
Dooley, a 'spineless rat'...pretty mean words dude. Why would think that?
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3279 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:54 am to
“Florida went on NCAA probation in 1984 for such heinous crimes as assistant coach Dwight Adams giving Dale Dorminey an extra T-shirt during his campus visit and buying him a pack of gum and a Sprite at the Gainesville airport. I’m not making that up. It’s all in the NCAA transcripts.

Not all the crimes were petty. There were some dastardly deeds by Florida boosters who were out of control during those days and the Gators got caught for them and paid the price. However, Florida wasn’t the only school taking its chances outside the law of the NCAA. Florida State got caught for illegal recruiting inducements that same year (Bobby Bowden was the FSU coach … you could look it up) and Georgia got caught up in a major scandal that revolved around 1982 Heisman Trophy winner, Herschel Walker, who allegedly was sold to the highest bidder out of high school. An NCAA investigation hit a stone wall and eventually Georgia lost two scholarships with no bans on television or bowl games. Dooley was chairman of the NCAA’s powerful television committee and to this day, there are rumors that he lobbied long, hard and successfully to keep Georgia out of hot water.

For those who think Dooley is a man of integrity, think again. There is a pattern of run-ins with the NCAA while Dooley was coach and/or athletic director. Georgia got hit with major infractions for football three times (1978, 1982, 1965) while Dooley was the coach and again for football in 1997 while he was the athletic director. The Georgia basketball program got hit for major sanctions under Dooley-hired coaches Hugh Durham (1985) and Jim Harrick (2004).

And then there was Jan Kemp, who blew the whistle on the fraudulent academic support program at Georgia under Dooley in the 1980s. She refused to give athletes passing grades at the insistence of the higher ups in the athletic department and when she complained, she was fired. She sued and was awarded $1.08 million by the jury.

What happened at Georgia is important because in 1984, Florida, got hit with some of the most serious sanctions in NCAA history that included two years without television and severe scholarship reductions. The probation cost Coach Charley Pell his job and cost the Gators the SEC championship. The Gators won the SEC on the field but the Gators were stripped of the championship in a vote of the SEC athletic directors and presidents. Among the leaders of the vote against Florida was Vince Dooley.”
Posted by Dexter22
Alabama
Member since Aug 2022
436 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:56 am to
TCU game should have an asterisk * in the record books.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:00 am to
Explain your reasoning.
Posted by Dexter22
Alabama
Member since Aug 2022
436 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 9:02 am to
They had no business being in that game…..wouldn’t even be in top half of SEC.
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