re: The reason Kirby hates us so much.

Maybe, because that rivalry with FSU is still competitive. I don't mean that in a condescending way, but ask the GT fans around here in north Ga and all any of them want these days is to get UGA off the schedule. Its not a rivalry to them anymore. A rivalry turns into agony when it loses its fun.
The problem for UF is, FSU seems to be getting their act together. If ol Billy can't pump some life back into the program and return some relevance to the team, that "rivalry" is going to start turning into an annual 'red-headed-step-child' thing before long, the way it is with UGA now...in other words, it's gonna lose any semblance of fun. When fun turns to dread, the rivalry is gone.

Hmmm , I’d consider myself a real uga fan and I’m 46 , have 2 degrees from uga and actually played athletics at uga and I’m from South Georgia and despite tech becoming a nothingburger I’d still have them as our number 1 rival. Winning against them doesn’t do much for me but a loss is devastating. I could see a 1a 1b thing with tech and Florida. So I guess I’d disagree with your opinion but I can respect it.

quote:

---

Spurrier's HC record against UGA: 16-7 (69.5%)
Kirby's HC records against UF: 5 (and counting) - 2 (71%)

---

Including Spurrier's time at SCar? Hmm, indeed.

It’s Billy’s second full cycle and he’s already recruiting at a higher level than Norvell. UF will be back. Just need patience.

So you're saying there's no difference between coaching at UGA and coaching at SCar.

That was a loooong time ago. Quit living in the past. Fat, dumb and lazy ain’t no way to go through life.

quote:

---

o you're saying there's no difference between coaching at UGA and coaching at SCar

---

I'm saying 90s UF compared ot 90s UGA is a massive difference, just like UGA most times to SC most times is a massive difference.

Of course you can see that, but you love to twist words around

quote:

---

just like UGA most times to SC most times is a massive difference.

---

“Florida went on NCAA probation in 1984 for such heinous crimes as assistant coach Dwight Adams giving Dale Dorminey an extra T-shirt during his campus visit and buying him a pack of gum and a Sprite at the Gainesville airport. I’m not making that up. It’s all in the NCAA transcripts.

Not all the crimes were petty. There were some dastardly deeds by Florida boosters who were out of control during those days and the Gators got caught for them and paid the price. However, Florida wasn’t the only school taking its chances outside the law of the NCAA. Florida State got caught for illegal recruiting inducements that same year (Bobby Bowden was the FSU coach … you could look it up) and Georgia got caught up in a major scandal that revolved around 1982 Heisman Trophy winner, Herschel Walker, who allegedly was sold to the highest bidder out of high school. An NCAA investigation hit a stone wall and eventually Georgia lost two scholarships with no bans on television or bowl games. Dooley was chairman of the NCAA’s powerful television committee and to this day, there are rumors that he lobbied long, hard and successfully to keep Georgia out of hot water.

For those who think Dooley is a man of integrity, think again. There is a pattern of run-ins with the NCAA while Dooley was coach and/or athletic director. Georgia got hit with major infractions for football three times (1978, 1982, 1965) while Dooley was the coach and again for football in 1997 while he was the athletic director. The Georgia basketball program got hit for major sanctions under Dooley-hired coaches Hugh Durham (1985) and Jim Harrick (2004).

And then there was Jan Kemp, who blew the whistle on the fraudulent academic support program at Georgia under Dooley in the 1980s. She refused to give athletes passing grades at the insistence of the higher ups in the athletic department and when she complained, she was fired. She sued and was awarded $1.08 million by the jury.

What happened at Georgia is important because in 1984, Florida, got hit with some of the most serious sanctions in NCAA history that included two years without television and severe scholarship reductions. The probation cost Coach Charley Pell his job and cost the Gators the SEC championship. The Gators won the SEC on the field but the Gators were stripped of the championship in a vote of the SEC athletic directors and presidents. Among the leaders of the vote against Florida was Vince Dooley.”

Explain your reasoning.