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The Rant is an interesting case study for me...
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:54 pm
You see the same mentality there out of the Pro Mainieri crowd that you did with the Pro Miles crowd. They denigrate the majority of folks who have not lowered their expectations for our program. They complain that it’s too tough to be dominant. They lecture about parity. They’ll tell folks they don’t know how good LSU has it with Mainieri.
Meanwhile, folks see a once proud program with a billboard trying to intimidate people by showing folks national titles...which we haven’t won in a decade.
Those same folks in the latter category see a part of their own fanbase who have lowered their expectations...creating a cult of personality around the coach they like. In the process, elevating the coach above the best interests of the program. Conflating wants with needs.
I’ve been off the Mainieri bandwagon for several years though I feel it’s possible to still enjoy the team and the program while being critical if not down on the coach. I’ve been there before with Miles & LSU, so it’s not altogether unfamiliar territory for me and for others I’m sure.
Do you all see any other parallels across the conference either now or in the past? Where a fanbase favored a coach more than what was best for the program they were coaching? Interested in hearing from you guys...
Meanwhile, folks see a once proud program with a billboard trying to intimidate people by showing folks national titles...which we haven’t won in a decade.
Those same folks in the latter category see a part of their own fanbase who have lowered their expectations...creating a cult of personality around the coach they like. In the process, elevating the coach above the best interests of the program. Conflating wants with needs.
I’ve been off the Mainieri bandwagon for several years though I feel it’s possible to still enjoy the team and the program while being critical if not down on the coach. I’ve been there before with Miles & LSU, so it’s not altogether unfamiliar territory for me and for others I’m sure.
Do you all see any other parallels across the conference either now or in the past? Where a fanbase favored a coach more than what was best for the program they were coaching? Interested in hearing from you guys...
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:54 pm to GFunk
Dear diary,
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:57 pm to GFunk
I love these types of melts 
Posted on 6/9/19 at 9:59 pm to GFunk
Dear Abby,
I have feels and no one cares. How do I cope?
I have feels and no one cares. How do I cope?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:05 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Not really. Just watching us eat our own...and I notice a lot of similarities.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:06 pm to GFunk
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I notice a lot of similarities
Nah, the Tiger Rant is a much bigger cesspool
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:07 pm to GFunk
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which we haven’t won in a decade
Oh, my. How embarrassing
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:11 pm to cajunbama
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Oh, my. How embarrassing
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cajunbama
Not really. Frustrating as I know the standard and what it should be for our program. But embarrassing? No. Not really. We’ve been competitive. Very. But after a while you realize that someone is just at their ceiling. They aren’t summiting the mountain again.
Some people take longer to get there than I do as a fan I guess. For me, I try to embrace a Jeremy Foley quote I once heard: What must be done eventually must be done immediately.
I’d rather rip a Band-Aid off and start anew ASAP. Otherwise you risk tDecline.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:48 pm to GFunk
So then you’re ok with firing Miles to hire somebody that will get the same results as the previous coach? Little fact here but no matter who LSU would hire after Mainieri, he’ll have the same results as Mainieri. This isn’t the 90s anymore. There’s a reason why no current coach has more than 1 natty. It’s extremely difficult to win a title in baseball today
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:06 pm to sta4ever
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This isn’t the 90s anymore.
what he said. the game has changed tremendously. No longer does college baseballs best teams resemble a softball squad that sees how many HRs they can hit. No longer does LSU have the best stadium to play in where kids line up to go play. It used to be LSU and MSU, and the rest of the conference. Now, there are 5 to 7 SEC baseball programs that can match anything LSU has to offer. Yet LSU fans still expect the same results.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:09 pm to GFunk
You have to fly plane banners to get things done. We may know a guy.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:12 pm to GFunk
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Those same folks in the latter category see a part of their own fanbase who have lowered their expectations...creating a cult of personality around the coach they like. In the process, elevating the coach above the best interests of the program. Conflating wants with needs.
I’ve been off the Mainieri bandwagon for several years though I feel it’s possible to still enjoy the team and the program while being critical if not down on the coach. I’ve been there before with Miles & LSU, so it’s not altogether unfamiliar territory for me and for others I’m sure.
What are your views on Orgeron?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:13 pm to GFunk
You might say Gus Malzahn is in the same boat. Some AU fans feel like he's beaten Saban a few times and played for a Natty as HC so we should be happy with the 8-5,7-6 turds that he routinely lays. Thompson and Pearl have proven you can be a consistent winner in sports we don't have a winning tradition in, so why not football?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:15 pm to GFunk
Naw, he won a ship. He better than Martin by Rant standards. Yall need to hold onto him.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:17 pm to BowlJackson
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I love these types of melts
Don’t you have some cow tongue tacos to eat? Or some dog food level grade meat?
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:19 pm to sta4ever
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sta4ever
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So then you’re ok with firing Miles to hire somebody that will get the same results as the previous coach? Little fact here but no matter who LSU would hire after Mainieri, he’ll have the same results as Mainieri. This isn’t the 90s anymore. There’s a reason why no current coach has more than 1 natty. It’s extremely difficult to win a title in baseball today
I was no fan of the Orgeron hire. Having said that, he’s won 2 more games than Miles when comparing their most recent two full seasons in the position of head coach of LSU Football.
So the comparison you use to start your response and/or rebuttal is factually inaccurate, which invalidates the rest of your posts. As an LSU Fan it’s pretty easy math...Les went 17-8 and 9-7 in the SEC. Orgeron went 19-7 and 11-5. He’s also won conference games at a better rate than Miles did over the same span.
As someone-again-who didn’t like the Orgeron hire, this should reinforce the point of how little Miles deserved to be in his position the last few years of his tenure. Yet he was allowed to carry on.
The same cult of personality surrounds Mainieri. There are readily apparent, easily discerned tangible pieces of evidence that prove he is no longer the solution and instead has become a problem. Just as Miles did. Your inability to apply facts accurately puts you into the ironic position of proving my point that it doesn’t take a definitive improvement in coaching on paper via a resume or even with on field results to experience an improvement in outcomes.
So...thanks for bolstering my argument! Much appreciated.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:28 pm to BowlJackson
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I love these types of melts
Eeeek...
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:34 pm to GFunk
Les Miles scored more points against Alabama in each of his last 3 games against Alabama than Coach 0 has managed in all 3 of his games.
So I'm pretty happy with the hire as well.
So I'm pretty happy with the hire as well.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:41 pm to 3down10
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Les Miles scored more points against Alabama in each of his last 3 games against Alabama than Coach 0 has managed in all 3 of his games.
So I'm pretty happy with the hire as well.
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3down10
In 2011 we beat you 9-6 and nobody GAF about that score. In the same vein, you beat us in the rematch on 5 FG’s and a garbage TD late with a missed PAT. But nobody remembers any of that context. They remember Alabama as the National Champion and a Final Score of 21-0.
In the same way, I could GAF less about how many points we score under which head coach. We lost. Under both head coaches. Period. That’s an anecdotal sample size and the overall records are much more illustrative of standards a coach will be judged against. Especially for the purposes of this thread and my point.
For your incredibly unoriginal shitposting in this thread, though? I’ll allow it
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:15 am to TailbackU
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played for a Natty as HC so we should be happy with the 8-5,7-6 turds that he routinely lays
He went 7-6 once and his average is slightly better than 8-5.
Who could you hire that you know is better? Who?
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