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re: The NCAA is a joke. I am not a LSU fan but right

Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5000 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:34 pm to
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That’s what we all want. A worse game


i feel you big dawg but if Kirklin gets us the W its great football.

NCAA is fricking useless tho. the last break LSU caught was them finally lifting their boot off Fultons neck in 19. its been hit after hit since.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:35 pm to
My favorite kind of thread, laced with excuses.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:35 pm to
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They absolutely did not. The NCAA fought it and the courts won.

Neither NIL nor immediate transfer eligibility were part of the lawsuit that went to the Supreme Court.
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At least know why your enemy is your enemy.

Irony.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:36 pm to
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They have one QB on roster and will burn his redshirt if he played.


Can't they play in 4 games before burning the redshirt?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14057 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:37 pm to
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is right. LSU will be playing a WR at QB. They have one QB on roster and will burn his redshirt if he played. LSU asked for a waiver and was denied. The NCAA hands out waivers like halloween candy, LSU trying to do the right thing and the NCAA punishes them.




Half the LSU team wanted no part of this game. Let's start there.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:43 pm to
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Can't they play in 4 games before burning the redshirt?

He’s already played in 4 games, because our former head coach was a fricking moron incapable of managing a roster.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:46 pm to
Broken arm, damn he's glass right? Keep'em coming champ.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17902 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:52 pm to
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You’re missing accurate stats, if you’re talking about LSU’s quarterbacks. You sure you aren’t looking at 2020 stats? LSU only has 2 quarterbacks that have seen the field this year, 1 of whom transferred before the bowl. The other has played in 4 games.

I sure af was... and i went to to your official site to try and avoid that shite too I was trying to avoid downloading the pdf, but somehow ended up on a 2020 webpage for stats. I figured I was missing something, hence why i asked
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10528 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:52 pm to
Neither NIL nor immediate transfer eligibility were part of the lawsuit that went to the Supreme Court.

yes it did

yes it did

How can some be so blind?

Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2935 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:54 pm to
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Worked for Alabama and Auburn in 2013 and 2014.


Auburn's was a transfer DB... GET IT RIGHT!
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:57 pm to
The NCAA is bad joke, it’s part time for all big schools to opt out of NCAA
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 8:59 pm to
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The NCAA didn't do this, the court did.

The court did not tell the NCAA they had to allow transfers without sitting out. The court said the NCAA couldn’t do anything about NIL
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4172 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:00 pm to
So burn the redshirt. Why should the NCAA make an exception? It's LSUs choice.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:04 pm to
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How can some be so blind?

Did you even read those articles? From your first link:
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Justice Neil Gorsuch authored the majority opinion in favor of the plaintiffs, albeit a narrow decision dealing only with education-related benefits and not the larger issue of pay-for-play or other big-picture issues with college athletes. And there was language the NCAA has since claimed as a “win” for itself: It was still free to create limits on benefits unrelated to education.

Your second link is paywall blocked. But no, NIL and transfer eligibility were not part of the Alston v. NCAA decision.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:07 pm to
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UK played a WR as QB midseason in 2019 vs Arkansas after losing all QBs to injury and won. UK proceeded to finish that season 8-5 winning a bowl game bs VT.

No UK players whined and asked for charity. Go Cats!


Did they do it with 37 total players dressed out too?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33873 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:09 pm to
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UK played a WR as QB midseason in 2019 vs Arkansas after losing all QBs to injury and won. UK proceeded to finish that season 8-5 winning a bowl game bs VT.

No UK players whined and asked for charity. Go Cats!



It’s clear from the lack of IQ in this post that you’re a Kentucky fan

I’m so glad LSU owns y’all’s arse in the sport yall care most about
This post was edited on 1/4/22 at 9:10 pm
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:10 pm to
College football and women's swimming are the most fricked up sports there are.

Shame.
Just a damn shame.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:10 pm to
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The court did not tell the NCAA they had to allow transfers without sitting out. The court said the NCAA couldn’t do anything about NIL

The court didn’t actually say that either.

The court did fire a massive antitrust warning shot at the NCAA, mostly via Kavanaugh’s concurring opinion. But NIL wasn’t actually litigated as part of that case.

It’s more accurate to say that the NCAA punted in the face of impending deadlines under state laws and a lack of any momentum from their lobbying efforts with federal lawmakers. In other words, the clock ran out and they didn’t have a choice.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10528 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 11:04 pm to
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In other words, the clock ran out and they didn’t have a choice.


So you agree that it's the court and not the NCAA.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9302 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 11:36 pm to
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So you agree that it's the court and not the NCAA.

No.

Let me try to help you.

September 2019: California passes the first NIL legislation, which was scheduled to go into effect in 2023. NCAA effectively put on-notice as that legislation, once active, would force California schools to choose between complying with state law or NCAA regulations.

October 2019: NCAA board of governors votes to modernize NCAA NIL rules. Updated rules are to be implemented by January 2021.

June 2020: Florida passes NIL legislation that goes into effect in July 2021, way sooner than the previous California legislation. This puts the NCAA up against a hard deadline.

July 2020: NCAA (Emmert) asks congress to pass federal NIL legislation, in order to standardize things across the country and give the NCAA antitrust cover.

September 2020-February 2021: Various federal NIL laws are proposed in congress, but none of them gain enough momentum to move forward.

November 2020: NCAA Division 1 Council formally submits proposed changes to NIL rules, to be voted on in January 2021.

January 2021: Vote on the NCAA D1 Council’s proposed changes is delayed indefinitely because of a Department of Justice letter that suggests the proposed policy would be in violation of antitrust laws.

June 21, 2021: Supreme Court rules against the NCAA in Alston v. NCAA, which was a case about education-related benefits (not NIL).

June 30, 2021: NCAA adopts the “interim” NIL policy, which basically says schools have to follow their respective states’ NIL laws.

July 1, 2021: The first batch of state NIL laws go into effect.


So no, the SCOTUS case was not what forced the NCAA’s hand. It was the laws passed by various state legislatures, and the fact that the NCAA simply ran out of time to implement a more robust policy before those state laws went into effect.

The NCAA literally adopted their interim policy the day before the first batch of state laws went into effect. It just happened to also be 2 weeks after Kavanaugh ripped the NCAA in his concurring opinion in the Alston case, which is why people have pointed to the SCOTUS decision as the reason. But nothing about that SCOTUS ruling really forced the NCAA’s hand because it wasn’t even about NIL.
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