re: The greatest dynasty in college football history, not close

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You're only 11 natties behind Yale.

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Now go back and look at those 19th century Ivy League titles and apply the same criteria tRant uses to pick apart Alabama's old title claims. Yeah some of those 3-1 title teams were absolute powerhouses.

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My bad. I thought we were talking about rankings that matter, but congrats on starting the season ranked #3 before finishing 3-8.

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You're right, because being ranked in the top 5 after beating a cupcake in week 1 is way more impressive. Or being ranked #1 after beating a bunch of Boston Colleges and Wake Forests.

Most of those aren't even in the same universe

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Bowden's run might just edge out Saban's for consistency

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No, not really. In fact, Bowden's run doesn't even exceed Nebraska's Tom Osborne or Penn State's JoePa. The problem with history is that no one remembers it and everyone revisions it to suit themselves.

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remember back when people were saying that Saban at Alabama was nothing to be worried about. I laughed then when they said that and I'm laughing now.

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Remember that like it was yesterday. First it was he will never go to Alabama, then it was no big deal because he would have to split recruits with, wait for it,,, Tommy Tuberville.

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Both of Neylands terms in Knoxville were legendary.

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Not impressed because he couldn't win bowl games.

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I'd respect FSU's run, if they hadn't pussed out of joining the SEC. Bowden even said he didn't want to have to play the tougher competition. Avoiding elite teams drops them a few points.

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While he certainly said that, I'm not so sure he already had it tougher. While the ACC was weak, playing Florida and Miami every season made his schedules on par with any SEC schedule. Especially when you consider they also often played other top tier OOC games

These are REGULAR SEASON games only (Final AP Rankings):

1987: #1 Miami, #7 Auburn, #8 Michigan State
1988: #2 Miami, #9 Clemson
1989: #1 Miami, #6 Auburn, #12 Clemson
1990: #3 Miami, #13 Florida
1991: #1 Miami, #6 Michigan, #7 Florida, #11 Syracuse, #23 BYU
1992: #3 Miami, #10 Florida, #17 NC State, #19 N. Carolina, #25 Wake Forest
1993: #2 Notre Dame, #5 Florida, #15 Miami, #19 N. Carolina, #23 Clemson
1994: #6 Miami, #7 Florida, #15 Virginia, #17 NC State
1995: #2 Florida, #16 Virginia, #20 Miami
1996: #1 Florida, #10 N. Carolina, #14 Miami
1997: #4 Florida, #6 N. Carolina, #25 Georgia Tech
1998: #5 Florida, #9 Georgia Tech, #11 Texas A&M, #18 Virginia, #20 Miami
1999: #12 Florida, #15 Miami, #20 Georgia Tech
2000: #2 Miami, #10 Florida, #16 Clemson, #17 Georgia Tech

That's 50 Top 25 opponents during a 14-year stretch...That's 26 Top 10 opponents during a 14-year streatch... all played during the regular season. That includes playing 4 National Champions during the regular season alone.

If you throw in bowl games, during this 14-year stretch, Florida State won the National Title twice.... but also played 7 games against opponents who won the National Title. And they played another 6 games against teams that either finished #2 in the polls or played in the National Title Game.

Another stat: From 1987-2000, Florida State played the SEC Champion 12 times. That's 12 SEC Champions on their schedule during just a 14-year period. Florida State was 7-4-1 in those games.

I would venture to say there isn't a single SEC program that played that many top tier teams... especially during the regular season... during that time period. And maybe even ever.


And after all that, Florida State finished in the Top 5 every single season during that stretch.

From a Championship perspective, it falls short of Bama's current run. But I do find Florida State's run from '87-'00 to be the more impressive run all together.

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Not one other program aside from Alabama has been rated in even 94% of the poll releases from 2008-2015. Oklahoma is next at 93.1%... but Bama has only played Oklahoma one time during this time period. LSU is 3rd at 92%. And while LSU has been strong from 2008-2015, they are no Florida or Nebraska during the '90s.

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Ohio State has been ranked in every poll from 2008-2015 except for the last 8 polls of 2011. That's 118/126 or 94%

In fact..OSU has not been ranked in only 14 weekly polls since 2000.

LINK

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Nebraska in '70s, '90s

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They were very good in the early 70's (that '71 team was one of the best ever) but Bama's run in the 70's was better than Nebraska's overall. No argument 'bout the 90's though, they were dominant...

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Notre Dame in '40s, 50s, 70s

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Don't know where you're gettin' the 50's from as ND didn't win a single title in that decade. 40's and 70's though, no argument, especially the 40's. Bama joined the ND teams of the 40's as the only teams to win 4 championships in 7 years...

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Miami '00s

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Made two championship games, but only 1 title...however their run which you didn't list, from '83 thru '91 (4 titles), was impressive...

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Ole Miss, late '50s/early '60s

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Very strong teams, but no poll titles...that '59 team would've gone down as one of the best ever, but Cannon's punt return on Halloween night cost 'em a title...and the '60 team got robbed in the polls by Minnesota...and the '62 team had a good argument as well...

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Ohio State late 60s, 00s

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They were very good from '68 to the mid-70's, but only one poll title ('68)...

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Nebraska 1994-2001

3 National Championships
4 Conference Championships (2 Big 12, 2 Big 8)
3 Big XII North Divisional Champs
1 Heisman Trophy
1 Heisman Finalist
3 Undefeated seasons

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You left off their '93 season. They went 11-1 and lost the Orange Bowl (the Bowl Coalition Alliance National Championship game that year) to FSU, 18-16. If Nebraska's kicker could've made a 40+ yard FG on the last play of the game, Nebraska would've won 3 straight titles...even so, they made it to 3-straight title games...