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re: The “Freedom From Religion Foundation” warns Auburn University

Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:51 pm to
“Religious”Hugh is putting on another good show. And AU is eating it up.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:53 pm to
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And you still push this lie?

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
59054 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:54 pm to
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“Religious”Hugh is putting on another good show. And AU is eating it up.


So who deserves second chances? I think he’s very sincere, and quite honestly, I am very excited to see it. Good for Hugh, and good for Auburn.
Posted by atlantarebs
Member since May 2016
476 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:54 pm to
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And you still push this lie?


He will reveal himself soon enough. Then Auburn fans will not defend so adamantly if he isn’t winning.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5339 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:57 pm to
Both are an obtrusive burden to someone else. Who are you…or anyone…to save someone that is comfortable living how they are? Proselytizing is the highest form of hubris. If you believe…great. Don’t try to bring it to others because you “know better.”

I agree on atheists. They shouldn’t care so long as they aren’t pressured.
Posted by gobnugget
If you
Member since Dec 2020
847 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:02 pm to
Pastor Freeze would be a good side character in a new season of Righteous Gemstones.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11424 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:06 pm to
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Who are you…or anyone…to save someone that is comfortable living how they are?
If one is living comfortably in sin, are they really living comfortably, or are the living in ignorance?
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4066 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Was anyone forced to attend or be baptized?


You decide…

Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15940 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:12 pm to
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He’s sinned, and he’s the first to say that. But he also knows and can speak to the power of redemption and Grace better than most.




Cmon baw. You’d be clowning his arse if he were a coach at any other university.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41847 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Both are an obtrusive burden to someone else.
1. So what? There isn't anything objectively wrong with being obtrusive or burdensome from an atheistic perspective.

2. Doctors can be extremely obtrusive and burdensome, too, yet such intrusion is often times needed to save lives. As a Christian, I try to show that people have a spiritual cancer and offer them a cure for it free of charge. If someone doesn't believe they are sick and they don't want what Christ offers, then that's on them, but I have a responsibility to at least tell people about it first. It would be cruel to ignore people who are in utter despair and refuse to offer them help when you believe you could help them just because there are other people in a similar situation who don't want to be helped.

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Who are you…or anyone…to save someone that is comfortable living how they are?
Who are doctors to tell unsuspecting patients that they have cancer when they were comfortable living how they were before that diagnosis? Why don't they just let people stay comfortable for as long as they can without having the worry about the cancer?

And who am I? I'm someone who believes he has a responsibility before God to obey what He's commanded, which is to preach the good news of salvation to people who are perishing.

Who are you to ask who am I for doing that? Don't you see the contradiction to criticize others for being critical? To "bother" me because you think I'm bothering others? At least I have a good reason for doing what I'm doing and am trying to be logically consistent with my own worldview in doing it.

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Proselytizing is the highest form of hubris. If you believe…great. Don’t try to bring it to others because you “know better.”
You either don't know what hubris is or you don't understand why Christians do what we do. We do it for the sake of others and for God's glory, not for ourselves. And by the way, if the reason why we believe that we "know better" is because it is actually God who knows better and we are trusting in His knowledge rather than our own, then that's the opposite of hubris.

Trusting in ourselves is hubris. Trusting in Jesus Christ is humility.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6017 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:13 pm to
I don’t know how this would be a separation of church and state issue since it seems like it didn’t take place during a university event. If a required practice for team members turned into a baptism, I could get that a line may have been crossed.

I don’t go to an economics class at a state university to hear the professor give me their amateur divinity class. If I see the professor doing it at a campus ministry event sanctioned to be on campus then I can just hit the bricks and the problem is solved.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21581 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:13 pm to
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“Religious”Hugh is putting on another good show. And AU is eating it up.


So are recruits
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5215 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:13 pm to
Screw those people!

Freeze is doing exactly what he’s called to do!
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
59054 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Who are you…or anyone…to save someone that is comfortable living how they are?



If we pass each other on the road at night, and I just came from a bridge that is washed out, should I bother to flag you down to tell you, or just let you figure it out on your own when you drive into the river.


That doesn’t make good sense if I really believe what I believe to be true. How can someone who supposedly loves his neighbor care so little for him?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45303 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Coaches and teachers are employees of the schools and should not be taking part in religious events


Totally irrelevant if they are not doing as the coach or teacher. Oh and there is no such thing as the separation of church and state. The only thing it says is that government will not endorse any one religion.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4066 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:15 pm to
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So who deserves second chances?


Guys who can win football games.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6017 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:18 pm to
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Coaches and teachers are employees of the schools and should not be taking part in religious events because of the separation of state and church.

Damn, guess Nick and Terry Saban gonna have to remove their names from St. Francis’ student center on campus.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11424 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:18 pm to
Mass on Sunday and Wednesday was focused on forgiveness.

Ironic that's the very message shared from the Gospel this week yet so many want to forget that message just because we're talking about Hugh Freeze.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6017 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:22 pm to
Some forgiveness is easier to give than others. For example, I can forgive Hugh for his infidelity but I struggle to do the same for the two times he beat my team. LOL
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11424 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:27 pm to
Personally, I've been struggling with forgiving someone in my life. I couldn't understand why I could forgive them for what they did to me but I had been struggling for years on forgiving them for what they did to other people.

Sunday it finally clicked to me: I can't forgive them for what they are doing to other people. Only those other people that are being hurt can give that forgiveness.

I think what Freeze did at Ole Miss is abhorrent, but the only entities that he needs forgiveness from are God and his family. I hope he has received that.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:32 pm
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