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re: The False Narrative that Georgia loses everyone on offense
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:17 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:17 am to diddlydawg7
Nobody is scared of your offense. Your defense was your strength of your team. Your offense kind of sucks
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Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:18 am to tide06
One thing I’ve learned watching Bama is experience means a lot and why on elite teams you see guys with less physical ability start over younger guys with better talent. It’s hard to replace experience and why I’m excited about Bamas chances next year.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:20 am to diddlydawg7
Who is going to get ball to him. You acting like you just signed the next all world QB. Honest question have you ever watched this kid play. He isn’t that good. Good yes,SEC good not sure.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:23 am to labamafan
Agree! People say we sucked and we starting over with new kids, so we going to be better. BS, kids take time to develop, learn the system get physically ready to compete in what is considered the toughest conference in college football.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:23 am to BamaMamaof2
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The fact is that Pickens has about a 25% chance of playing every game next year.
Do you know what a fact is?
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:23 am to diddlydawg7
Georgia wasn’t explosive on offense in 2019. Now we have a QB who can throw a better deep ball and run it. RB depth is still strong. WRs will be better. Offensive line had depth and just brought in a bunch of big time recruits. Defense will be better.
It is a false narrative to say Georgia lost anything major.
It is a false narrative to say Georgia lost anything major.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:23 am to diddlydawg7
Cager would have been your best receiver if he hadn't been injured for quite a few games and forced to sit.
But forget that. You're looking at this from a pure production standpoint that doesn't take into account, not in any particular order:
Leadership.
Blocking.
Physicality.
You lost QB1, the only QB Kirby has ever really fielded for an entire season and the only QB on the roster who has any repertoire during "live snaps" with any of the receivers. Stetson has played garbage time, Dwan Mathis was sidelined the entire season and Carson Beck will be a true freshman.
Joe Burrow struggled his first year as a transfer QB and he's a generational talent, I also don't think he was walking into an offense that was in almost complete disarray.
Losing QB1, RB1, RB2, WR1, WR3 (Depth Chart), Four OL, TE1, TE2 (Eli Wolf) -- and are looking at implementing a new offensive scheme with a transfer QB...
This isn't going to sound happy for Georgia, but this is not a good thing.
But forget that. You're looking at this from a pure production standpoint that doesn't take into account, not in any particular order:
Leadership.
Blocking.
Physicality.
You lost QB1, the only QB Kirby has ever really fielded for an entire season and the only QB on the roster who has any repertoire during "live snaps" with any of the receivers. Stetson has played garbage time, Dwan Mathis was sidelined the entire season and Carson Beck will be a true freshman.
Joe Burrow struggled his first year as a transfer QB and he's a generational talent, I also don't think he was walking into an offense that was in almost complete disarray.
Losing QB1, RB1, RB2, WR1, WR3 (Depth Chart), Four OL, TE1, TE2 (Eli Wolf) -- and are looking at implementing a new offensive scheme with a transfer QB...
This isn't going to sound happy for Georgia, but this is not a good thing.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:24 am to BamaMamaof2
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The fact is that Pickens has about a 25% chance of playing every game next year. He will be suspended from playing time for his temper and his behavior I am sure.
Has it been confirmed that Cleveland is coming back? I thought there was some questions about him.
It's okay, GA fans think they are winning the National Championship every year. I will be hearing it all off season.
Pickens played in every game last year, why would this year be different, except in your dreams.
Why don’t you go to WalMart and get a new Bama shirt and tune into Pawl, so you can feel like you’re part of the school you never attended.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:24 am to diddlydawg7
quote:310 yards, thats like 5 quarters for Ja'marr Chase
WR- Dominick Blaylock (3rd in receiving yards)
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:26 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Cager would have been your best receiver if he hadn't been injured for quite a few games and forced to sit.
Fair point but Pickens was still better this season.
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Leadership
True, but this happens every year, your leaders leave, and someone has to step up. We won’t know until the season gets started.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:31 am to diddlydawg7
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Fair point but Pickens was still better this season.
I'm saying his numbers were only better because Cager was injured, so it's not right to call him the best receiver philosophically. You can also see that when Cager was injured permanently after the Florida game Fromm failed to hit over 50% of his passes to finish out the season until he played Baylor.
No doubt Pickens is good, but it was clear that Cager was absolutely pivotal for the offense to work -- so Pickens will have to be this guy this next season. (Also very possible.)
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True, but this happens every year, your leaders leave, and someone has to step up. We won’t know until the season gets started.
I agree -- and I just wanted to say that it's not impossible, it's very possible. Just difficult. Losing so many players on the line and at every single skill position (two deep at two of the skill positions) is not easy to replace.
Remember when everyone said Swift was the next Heisman candidate and he would be just like Chubb + Michel? Expecting even a quarter of the players you lost at those positions to be an upgrade next season* might be lofty expectations.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:34 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm saying his numbers were only better because Cager was injured,
Being able to stay healthy was part of the reason Pickens was better. That and Pickens improved as the year went on. That’s why the offense moved through him in the Sugar Bowl.
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Remember when everyone said Swift was the next Heisman candidate and he would be just like Chubb + Michel?
No RB is going to win the heisman splitting carries with how college football has evolved.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:38 am to atlanta917
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Being able to stay healthy was part of the reason Pickens was better.
I don’t think that’s what makes him better
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That and Pickens improved as the year went on. That’s why the offense moved through him in the Sugar Bowl.
That is true. Starting as a Freshman at UGA is so rare. He got better and better and was flat out dominant his last 3 games.
What made Cager valuable was his connection with Fromm. He isn’t an incredible WR. From the start, Cager was Fromm’s favorite target. Pickens has always been more talented. With Fromm gone, Cager’s loss is not as significant.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:40 am to diddlydawg7
anybody who doesn't think Pickens is better than Cager is out of their minds
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:40 am to diddlydawg7
Holy shite y’all really do lose everyone
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:42 am to diddlydawg7
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I don’t think that’s what makes him better
It’s not the only reason he’s better, but it’s certainly one of the reasons. Being able to stay in healthy is huge when one loss can cost your team a championship.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:42 am to bee Rye
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anybody who doesn't think Pickens is better than Cager is out of their minds
It’s mainly UF fans that say that, so there’s a bit of truth to your statement.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:43 am to Solo Cam
Blaylock won’t be ready until at the earliest October and even then he won’t be the same. Losing him in the bowl was basically costing a year. He won’t be back to form until 2021. He was really starting to come around too. Hate that for the kid.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:43 am to atlanta917
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Being able to stay healthy was part of the reason Pickens was better. That and Pickens improved as the year went on. That’s why the offense moved through him in the Sugar Bowl.
Ehhhhhh, freak injuries happen. That doesn't make a player better or worse -- Cager tried to fight through his injuries and aggravated them as time went on. That does not mean someone is more talented or more pivotal to the offense.
You also used a single game without accounting for:
Florida: 20 - 30, 279 yards. (Cager had over 100 yards receiving) Pickens had 1 catch for 4 yards. Cager injured here.
Missouri: 13 - 29, 173 yards.
Auburn: 13 - 28, 110 yards.
Texas A&M: 11 - 23, 163 yards.
LSU: 20 - 43, 225 yards.
Until the Baylor game, Pickens had 13 catches in 5 games.
It's no coincidence that the moment Cager leaves the offense you guys failed to get to 200 yards passing in three of your last six games and failed to get over a 50% completion rate in five out of your last six games.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 11:45 am
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