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re: The computers pick South Carolina over Georgia.

Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:17 pm to
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If you watch the video, you'll understand why that isn't likely to happen. Both team have a propensity to shorten the game. In fact, that's both teams game plan. That strategy limits possessions for both teams and keeps the score low.


Yep..all those low scoring UGA SEC wins..42, 53, 48, 41, 31..
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Yep..all those low scoring UGA SEC wins..42, 53, 48, 41, 31..


Stop being disrespectful and talking to Lonnie like that
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Yep..all those low scoring UGA SEC wins..42, 53, 48, 41, 31..


I didn't say uga didn't score a lot of points. I said that a run first game plan inherently shortens the game. UGA has been fortunate that they've gotten lots of explosive run plays.

But look at ND game as a preview to this one.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:27 pm to
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Their model indicated the fewer the yards SC gains the more points they score. Seriously.
Their algorithm might have few flaws. I love their weekly YouTube predictions though, good stuff.





Their model (as far as I can tell) doesn't account for how many short fields we've had due to our high turnover margin. When you need less yards to hit the end zone, yeah your offensive stats won't be quite as impressive. The game that we didn't capitalize on short fields with was most definitely UK. We had 3 takeaways in the first half that put us on the UK side of the 50. Score on just 2 of those chances (not to mention the field goal problems) and we're 7-1.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:28 pm to
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But look at ND game as a preview to this one.


Agreed, but we are better than ND.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:28 pm to
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Could potentially be calculating short fields/turnovers? Otherwise, yeah... probably flawed model.



As I said before, yeah it's not taking this into account in a meaningful way which is why his model is doing that.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:30 pm to
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I didn't say uga didn't score a lot of points. I said that a run first game plan inherently shortens the game. UGA has been fortunate that they've gotten lots of explosive run plays.

It isn't good fortune. We have elite backs who rip off chunks when they get a crease.
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ND game

ND is on a different level as a football team from USCe.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22449 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:30 pm to
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I didn't say uga didn't score a lot of points. I said that a run first game plan inherently shortens the game. UGA has been fortunate that they've gotten lots of explosive run plays.

But look at ND game as a preview to this one.


You did say that such a game plan leads to low scoring affairs..it hasn't for us in SEC play.

You think SC has a defense as good as ND or you predicting us having a couple of TDs called back?

And what's "fortunate" about those explosive plays on runs? When you bring 8 in the box (and SC will after we force them to) there aren't many folks to stop a back who makes in past the LOS.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25672 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:31 pm to
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But look at ND game as a preview to this one



Because south Carolina has similar talent to notre dame?
USA Today NFL draft projections
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24005 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:36 pm to
No. Because of similar game plans
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:36 pm to
I just ran my silly model, which uses a lot of the same ideas as theirs (production vs opponent average), but I guess they don't use any sort of Yards Per Point measurement or something. Anyway, I came up with this

GEORGIA - 29
SOUTH CAROLINA - 9


Georgia
429 Total Yards (6.85 YPP)
164 Pass Yards (10.8 YPA)
265 Rush Yards (5.6 YPA)

South Carolina
155 Total Yards (2.53 YPP)
108 Pass Yards (3.6 YPA)
47 Rush Yards (1.5 YPA)


South Carolina has run for less YPA than their opponent averages in their last 5 P5 games. They have passed for less YPA in their last 3 P5 games. Combine that with UGA's defense being stingy and it's not a pretty picture.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:37 pm to
29 - 9 seems more likely than 42-10 in my book.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:38 pm to
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No. Because of similar game plans

Everybody that has defended Georgia has had the same basic plan. ND was more successful because of their talent.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:40 pm to
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ND is on a different level as a football team from USCe.



Yea the level below us.

We SEC.... they aint.

They'd be 4-4 with our schedule.
Posted by Gj4Bama
Roll Tide!
Member since Nov 2006
831 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:41 pm to
Ruthless computers won’t even give the dawgs 24 hours to celebrate their 1st week 1 CFP ranking National Championship before they piss on their parade
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:41 pm to
Didn't Notre Dame just BLOW OUT your best win?
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25672 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:45 pm to
The UGA offensive stats are about what we do against the conference.

I don't know scar enough to know what they average.

We typically put up more points because of favorable field position and pretty dang good coaching (1st and 3rd quarters are dominant point differentials. We haven't had a lot of missed opportunities at those times ).

Pretty cool. Thanks for running it.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
4772 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:48 pm to
In the video, he sits there and explains why the models are wrong...

Why would I believe any of the models, then?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:50 pm to
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I don't know scar enough to know what they average.


They have an above average defense for sure. My guess is Georgia won't rip off as many huge plays, but that they will start wearing USCe down once USCe starts going 3 and out.

Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18056 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 5:51 pm to
BCS computers were refurbished and used for this purpose.
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