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re: The collective melt over Nate Oats and Bediako should be a wakeup call.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:10 am to crimsoncoded94
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:10 am to crimsoncoded94
I woke up and noticed that Nate Oats is a cheating POS
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:15 am to TideCPA
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The NCAA's argument hinges entirely on the premise that an NBA contract (even if a player never actually plays in the NBA) is somehow materially different than every other form of professional basketball contract on earth.
I see Bama fans are still refusing to admit they used Euro Pros on their own rosters before.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:17 am to Crowknowsbest
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I understand allowances for an 18-year old European who played professionally as a 15 year old because that is the developmental program over there in all sports. To me, that isn’t all that different than an American playing at IMG or Oak Hill on scholarship.
I fully agree that Europeans who played professionally into their twenties have no business in college basketball.
Eh, that is a distinction without a difference again. Why is getting paid for playing in a developmental league that feeds into a premier league any different than playing in the G League? Why can gen pop come and go from college as they please but athletes cannot?
The NCAA cannot make their rules stand up to legal scrutiny once they became restrictions on economic [NIL] opportunities.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:20 am to tgrmeat
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I’m all for it. Whatever accelerates the demise of the current system is fine by me.
This. The more absurd, the better. Either it becomes so absurd something/somebody does something, or we accelerate the full demise of college sports and eventually decouple athletics completely from colleges and ultimately high school.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:21 am to crimsoncoded94
college basketball is continuing to go down the shitter like college football. no idea what the solution is here but its in a death spiral.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:25 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue but my "melt" would be due to Bama adding a player mid season. I admitedly have not looked into this much so its possible I read a headline and have it completely wrong but I am VERY against adding players mid season.
It's all such a mess.
Basketball season splits the 2 semesters, so it's always been the case that certain players were only eligible once the spring semester began.
The clusterfrick here seems:
1) the NCAA setting precedent by clearing other foreign professional / G league players
2) plus players in good standing for the Spring semester being eligible to join teams when classes begin
The basic mess with all this seems to be the NCAA using arbitrary rules determine amatuerism so it's not hard to show they're arbitrarily applied in many individual cases in court.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:28 am to crimsoncoded94
Live look into the Bama locker room...
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:30 am to wm72
Bediako is winning this case even if the NCAA appeals it all the way to SCOTUS. And the NCAA probably doesn't want to push it because they know they'll end up with destructive precedent by fighting it too aggressively.
The NCAA is in terminal decline. I think it is likely that if they press things too hard with Alabama that it will begin an internal discussion of what it would look like for the CFP to be extended to basketball. At that point, the NCAA lost its chief revenue source and they're deader than a door nail.
The NCAA is in terminal decline. I think it is likely that if they press things too hard with Alabama that it will begin an internal discussion of what it would look like for the CFP to be extended to basketball. At that point, the NCAA lost its chief revenue source and they're deader than a door nail.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:35 am to Diego Ricardo
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Eh, that is a distinction without a difference again. Why is getting paid for playing in a developmental league that feeds into a premier league any different than playing in the G League?
Because they do not have high school or college sports the same way we do in America?
The NBA has always considered the G league an entity of the NBA, and any other league to be inferior to the NBA. Were you this upset when a Euro Pro played basketball for Alabama in 2015? Literally all you got to do is recruit an Euro Pro if you want one. What's with this self-righteous delusional thinking of "yall get to recruit the Euro-Leagues, so we are going to bring the system down and make the NCAA change things up!"
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:37 am to chefrossi
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He’s winning games by any means necessary, and I love it.
This is no different than trannies dominating in womens sports bud.
You may THINK nothing matters when you're winning, but the rest of us think you're cheating clowns.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:42 am to YumYum Sauce
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This is no different than trannies dominating in womens sports bud.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:43 am to crimsoncoded94
The best part is Oates coming out last week about being in favor of high school recruits cause he was a HS coach. Just wrong place wrong time again for Nate. 
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:53 am to jangalang
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Because they do not have high school or college sports the same way we do in America?
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Literally all you got to do is recruit an Euro Pro if you want one.
Well, a major part of Bediako's case is that NIL limitations due to him being a foreign player were at root of all his decisions.
NCAA granting Euro and certain G League players eligibility is where Bediako can pretty easily show the arbitrariness of those rule applications / limitaions.
It's a huge mess but the way you frame it is which "team" gets an advantage but the way the courts have to see it is in terms of the individual player filing suit.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:00 am to crimsoncoded94
Bama judge should let Darius Miles suit up and play despite playing these last few months in the prison league
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:04 am to Diego Ricardo
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There is no legal difference between a European pro and a domestic pro.
People keep saying this but there is an intrinsic difference between a Euro pro and a domestic pro. In Europe most high schools don't have teams. You play for your local club team. If you are identified at the club level as having talent you start moving your way up to higher clubs which puts you into "Professional" clubs at an early age. By 15-16 the most talented players are playing in their local federation and are getting minutes in the lower division pro leagues. So any meaningfully talented player from Europe will have pro league experience by the time they hit college age.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:15 am to jangalang
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Because they do not have high school or college sports the same way we do in America?
That doesn’t matter in any legal sense that a court gives a damn about. It’s just a construct NCAA invented.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:21 am to DeoreDX
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People keep saying this but there is an intrinsic difference between a Euro pro and a domestic pro. In Europe most high schools don't have teams.
The problem is that so many individual cases are unique.
Most Euro "pro" players have been traditional college age guys that did just what you describe.
But then the NCAA lets in guys like Jonatan Levy (23 year old Freshman previously playing in Isreal's top league). Then they let in the Baylor G-League guy.
Then you have a foreign player like Bediako arguing that his case has just as many unique nuances as these.
Etc etc etc
I agree with you about people making confusing arguments.
But the NCAA just arbitrarily throwing shite at the wall is the root of all that confusion.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:36 am to YumYum Sauce
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You may THINK nothing matters when you're winning, but the rest of us think you're cheating clowns.
When I walk into the National Championship trophy room in Tuscaloosa, I’ve never once looked at a trophy and asked myself “what do opposing fans think about how we won this trophy.”
No one gives a shite.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:50 am to Diego Ricardo
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That doesn’t matter in any legal sense that a court gives a damn about.
Well, that's not true.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:08 pm to crimsoncoded94
The courts are just making a joke of the NCAA and its old rules.
The NCAA will just end up regulating academics and let the courts and sports do their own thing.
Not this situation but the NIL will cause the sports to collapse and it will take the TV ratings to start dropping and money being lost for anyone with money to care. Right now the richest are getting their way at their colleges. If ESPN starts suffering then something will change.
There are lots of fans at schools that can't compete NIL wise that are pushing the TV money up. When they quit caring and only a handful of fanbases watch then less games will be on tv and so on til it becomes irrelevant compared to before.
The NCAA will just end up regulating academics and let the courts and sports do their own thing.
Not this situation but the NIL will cause the sports to collapse and it will take the TV ratings to start dropping and money being lost for anyone with money to care. Right now the richest are getting their way at their colleges. If ESPN starts suffering then something will change.
There are lots of fans at schools that can't compete NIL wise that are pushing the TV money up. When they quit caring and only a handful of fanbases watch then less games will be on tv and so on til it becomes irrelevant compared to before.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 12:15 pm
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