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re: The Coaches USA TODAY Sports AFCA top 25 preseason poll

Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Yeah, I've seen a lot of hype for Emory Jones. Maybe the scouts are seeing something that I'm not, but he has never impressed me when I've seen him play. They also lose their top 3 receiving leaders from last year. They're ranked towards the bottom in the country in returning production as a team



At best they will operate like Mullen's Nick Fitzgerald teams, I'd think, and those teams relied on a pretty salty defense to help control the tempo of the game. They were also able to push a lot of teams around up front with the OL and the run game.

I'm not sure the 2021 version of Florida's offensive roster is really suited for that. However, Mullen is pretty good at adapting his scheme to his personnel, so I won't doubt that he has a plan.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71575 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:04 pm to
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At best they will operate like Mullen's Nick Fitzgerald teams, I'd think, and those teams relied on a pretty salty defense to help control the tempo of the game. They were also able to push a lot of teams around up front with the OL and the run game.

Maybe, but they're going to have to improve quite a bit on defense from last year to perform even close to the level State did in 2017 and 2018
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Maybe, but they're going to have to improve quite a bit on defense from last year to perform even close to the level State did in 2017 and 2018



Yep - that's the conundrum they seem to be in to me. Their QB skillset matches up with his old ground and pound teams.....but the OL and defensive front 7 don't seem to match nearly the same way.

They are going to be a very interesting team to watch.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Island_Tiger73
DA BAYOU
Member since Aug 2016
999 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:15 pm to
LSU is overrated & FLA isn't? The worst LSU team in 2 decades beat the best FLA team since Tebow in the swamp last year & LSU is overrated. Nice troll job
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5812 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:15 pm to
Alabama's schedule
quote:


6. Texas A&M
11. Florida
13. LSU
16. Miami
25. Ole Miss


Bama could drop 2 and still be in the playoff.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:27 pm to
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That is 14 consecutive years being #1 at least one week for Alabama.


I've never understood the fascination with counting weeks at number 1. There's only 1 week that matters to be number 1.

If you aren't #1 in the end, all that means is you were overrated at some point during the season.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7699 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:29 pm to
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I've never understood the fascination with counting weeks at number 1.


do you understand the simple point as to how it's relevant to a program's success?
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:29 pm to
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There's only 1 week that matters to be number 1
And you haven't been there since 1939 so...
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Has UTA ever begun a season unranked in the last decade?

I've never seen a school get off the hook so easy besides maybe southern cal.
We were unranked for all of the Charlie Strong years I believe.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73343 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:31 pm to
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I've never understood the fascination with counting weeks at number 1. There's only 1 week that matters to be number 1.

If you aren't #1 in the end, all that means is you were overrated at some point during the season.



Alabama can count 6 at the end of a season in the same 14 year span. Does that work for your sensibilities?
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by ShowMeHorns
Member since Jul 2021
624 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:31 pm to
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The Big 12 has been every bit as easy as the Big 10


Oklahoma has the easiest schedule in the Big 12...and it's 17th toughest nationally. Ohio State is 47th nationally. Not close
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
4108 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:31 pm to
Nah. After aggy lost their shite when we Vince mcmahon walked into the SEC they don't have a leg to stand on. It doesn't matter what we put on the football field, we own them and they know it.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:32 pm to
Didn't the Big 12 go undefeated in bowl games last season?

That sure indicates that other conferences were leaving the Big 12 in the dust
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
4108 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:33 pm to
I'm guessing we were ranked after the ND win. Maybe the OU win too. Other than that just preseason rankings
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19723 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:35 pm to
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I've never understood the fascination with counting weeks at number 1. There's only 1 week that matters to be number 1.

If you aren't #1 in the end, all that means is you were overrated at some point during the season.

Aggie wouldn’t understand either of the these.. but my answer is the following:

Program Strength & Perception

Even if you don’t finish #1, it is a very good indicator that the program is very strong and it is a very good indicator of how your program is perceived by the people that are voting in the polls.. It is also something that you can sell recruits..

You will now argue that history doesn’t matter..
and I will argue that it does matter..

Lets agree to disagree.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
19132 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:36 pm to
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I’m going on record that all preseason polls are crap. It creates bias that carries on throughout the season. Plenty of years team A will have a the same record as B with a better resume yet be ranked well below because of preseason rankings.



Agreed. First poll shouldn't come out until after the first month at earliest.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71575 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Oklahoma has the easiest schedule in the Big 12...and it's 17th toughest nationally. Ohio State is 47th nationally. Not close
Not sure how you can exactly substantiate a SOS ranking before anyone plays a game. Preseason rankings aren't exactly a reliable metric. The last full season we had, OSU had the #1 SOS in the country at the end of the regular season. Michigan was #3. Penn State was #7. Iowa was #12. Michigan St was #18. Oklahoma was #20. The Big 10 has been a much better conference, top to bottom, than the Big 12.

Regardless, I'm seeing OSU as having the #3 SOS heading into this season
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This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41542 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:37 pm to
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I’m going on record that all preseason polls are crap. It creates bias that carries on throughout the season. Plenty of years team A will have a the same record as B with a better resume yet be ranked well below because of preseason rankings.


Truth
Posted by WhosYourDaddy
Member since Apr 2021
233 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Agreed. First poll shouldn't come out until after the first month at earliest.



Yeah the first ranking coming out going into week 4 when most conferences are heading into conference play would be way better
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:41 pm to
Reasonable Aggy [ON] [off]
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6. Texas A&M

We have a few very important unanswered questions, particularly with new faces on the OL and at the QB position.

Thus, I am going on record and saying "too high" until we get some answers.


Reasonable Aggy [on] [OFF]


Troll Aggy [ON] [off]
quote:

13. LSU

After the .500 record they posted last year?


LSU is gonna SUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!



frickLSU®


Troll Aggy [on] [OFF]

Reasonable Aggy [ON] [off]

LSU is littered with talent up and down that roster.

With LSU's " Team Talent" at #6, you can expect a swift bounce back. Thus, "too low" for now.


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