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re: The Big 10 Has Been Inquiring About the CFP Selection Format

Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:37 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:37 am to
You can make the argument the SEC championship means more and is tougher to win than the playoff.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:38 am to
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the committee who can't get four teams right.


Do they teach "begging the question" at Ohio State?
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16117 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:38 am to
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The human factor is a complete joke


They've gotten it correct every year.

We need the human factor. We're not a bunch of robots. We, as humans, are able to see and evaluate things computers and rules cannot diagnose.

We once had a system that evaluated things with little human input. It was called the BCS, and it never failed to get it right either, but everyone complains and moans no matter what the format.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:38 am to
They should spend their time working with the HC's of their programs.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:39 am to
no they haven't.
Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:40 am to
Just used the BCS formula for the 4 best.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:40 am to
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I just say don't lose by 4 touchdowns to Purdue and you are in.


Even better, beat Purdue by 40 points
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16117 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:41 am to
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no they haven't.


Let's hear it then.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:42 am to
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1) Force NDame to join a conference or be excluded


You are not reading the tea leaves correctly. They have already joined a conference but must wait till the Baby boomers expire in their fanbase before going all in. The older Notre Dame base writes the big donor checks and they are the ones steeped in the IND issue.

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2) Give greater credibility to a 9 game conference schedule, only the SEC and ACC play 8 games


As an Auburn fan I am surprised as you play Clemson often enough to be considered an often played series OOC. The problem with your logic is not all 5 power conferences are equal. On one side you have the B1G, B12, and PAC with only one shared series between them and that is Iowa vs Iowa State. On the other side you have the ACC and SEC with at least 8 games of strong duration.

If say the B1G drops a MAC game to pick up Rutgers it is an easier win and you have no cost to bring a team in as it is in conference. If the PAC plays 9 conference games then plays 3 easy wins from west coast it is an easier path but looks better on paper only. Before all 5 of the P5's use this as a talking point let the B1G, B12, and PAC schedule a cross conference rival game like the ACC and SEC.

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3) Allow only one game against non-power 5 or lower teams


Some FCS schools are actually better than some P5's so again it is not as easy as it appears. Especially as the SEC has historic scheduling with the SoCon and former members. App State beat Michigan in the Big House and took Penn State to OT in Happy Valley.

If you schedule and beat a 2-10 P5 is that really saying something? I would rather beat a 15-0 North Dakota State at that point as at least they have shown an ability to actually win at college football.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:42 am to
You give AU 17 the month and a half Bama got to heal while everyone else was playing an extra game, and they walk through the playoffs.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:43 am to
Field better teams.

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:44 am to
I bet anyone $10, that if Alabama lost to Vandy by four touchdowns they would still put them in the playoffs
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64466 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:45 am to
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Ohio State would have gotten in over Notre Dame if Notre Dame loses that conference title game to Clemson.

Ohio State would have lost to Clemson too. The better question would be would Notre Dame have beaten Northwestern, the "extra game" Ohio State played.
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With only 12 games played by Notre Dame only taking the best 12 of another team is more than fair

No, it's not. You take away the bonus game Ohio State played. They both played a 12 game regular season schedule. Notre Dame went 12-0. Ohio State went 11-1.

This is a really ignorant argument, even for you.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30850 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:46 am to
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The arguement is that its obvious they should have gotten in over a Notre Dame with a less impressive best 12 games and ability to avoid playing Clemson for their pseudo conference title


True, but ND was undefeated. They were a clear #3.

The BCS if it had been around:

Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16117 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:46 am to
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You give AU 17 the month and a half Bama got to heal while everyone else was playing an extra game, and they walk through the playoffs.



Ok. So you have no argument BAMA wasn't one of the four best teams, you're just mad BAMA won.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:46 am to
Notre Dame already beat northwestern. At northwestern
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:47 am to
This isn't about Bama. 18 Bama has earned their place in the playoffs. This is about establishing equal criteria so every program has the same requirements to make the post season. Not a glorified beauty contest.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:49 am to
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It's not about 2018. It's about the floating/moving criteria that the CFP puts out

They are not consistent and criteria needs to be set. The human factor is a complete joke


:kige:

No argument here. They pick the matchups they want and then set the narrative after the fact to justify it. This is partly based on how they select the committee in the first place. The first CFP committee was overloaded with B1G, PAC, and ND votes from day 1 and the lone SEC guy (Manning) did not even serve the full first year if memory serves.

BCS and the computers actually got it right in the first place but B1G and PAC were losing ground so we went to CCG's and CFP to deal them back in. It has not worked as planned and now Delany has wet his diapers and is crying about it.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16117 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:50 am to
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This isn't about Bama. 18 Bama has earned their place in the playoffs. This is about establishing equal criteria so every program has the same requirements to make the post season. Not a glorified beauty contest.



Let's stay on topic.

I said the committee has been correct, every season, in their selection of the four best teams. You said, they have not. Are you going to explain where they went wrong?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:51 am to
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we don’t have these same arguments with the nfl. They know what needs to be done to get in.

Yep, win your conference, and you play for the championship.
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