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re: The Big 10 Has Been Inquiring About the CFP Selection Format
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:14 am to Giant Leaf
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:14 am to Giant Leaf
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Alabama doesn't get to skip a game
Except in 2011 and 2017.
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:18 am to lsufball19
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Did Alabama deserve to be in the CFP last year? If so, why.
Yes, because the next best option got beat twice and one of those losses was a blowout to Iowa.
BAMA's only loss was to a top 10 team on the road in a rivalry game.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:19 am to CU_Tigers4life
I didn't expect such a reaction. This topic really struck a nerve.
All I can say is that for the most part, the top 2 teams that have competed for the National Title in each of the years on the Playoffs for the most part have been significantly better than the other 2 teams that made the dance.
All I can say is that for the most part, the top 2 teams that have competed for the National Title in each of the years on the Playoffs for the most part have been significantly better than the other 2 teams that made the dance.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:23 am to Nitro Express
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Yes, because the next best option got beat twice and one of those losses was a blowout to Iowa.
Well the next best option after Notre Dame this year was Oklahoma. The next best option after Oklahoma got blown out by Purdue this year...
BTW, Wisconsin was undefeated headed to their conference title game last year, while Alabama sat at home doing nothing. Their only loss was a 6 point loss to a top 10 team, in their conference championship game, a game Alabama didn't qualify for.
I think the takeaway in all of this is that Ohio State needs to stop getting blown out by average to below average football teams.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:28 am to lsufball19
Are you suggesting Wisconsin was a better football team or would have defeated Alabama in tackle football in 2017?
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:33 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Just saying something is an opinion doesn't mean it can't be challenged.
Neat. Challenge away.
Just be correct if you're going to be an a-hole.
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Do they teach "begging the question" at Ohio State?
You used that claim to support your original contention that Delaney was right to ask. You made it conditional on the premise that the committee can't get the four teams right. As such, it is fully subject to questions about whether that premise is actually true. You are asking us to buy the assumption that it is. Which is where begging the question comes in.
My reply wasn't some random choice of words. You stupid frick.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:34 am to Nitro Express
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Are you suggesting Wisconsin was a better football team or would have defeated Alabama in tackle football in 2017?
No, I'm suggesting that Giant Leaf's argument regarding playing in or not playing in conference championships is dumb. It's just incredibly ironic that an Alabama fan would say Notre Dame didn't deserve to be in the playoffs because they didn't play in a conference championship game. Then, like clockwork, he moves the goalposts to try to justify Alabama in the years they didn't play in one. But no, I am not suggesting Wisconsin was better than Alabama last year.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:35 am to CU_Tigers4life
All the bitching and jockeying for the right to get beat by Alabama is getting old.
The big 12 was bitching about it too, but the CFP Committee threw them an unjustified bone, so they remained silent, especially after the 1st quarter, when Alabama was giving the money shot.
Of course, UCF would have been bitching about it, but they failed to beat LSU's 3rd string.
Then, there's Georgia, who would have had a somewhat legitimate gripe about getting left out, had they not let LSU make sweat love to their quivering anuses and subsequently proved they didn't belong by getting absolutely punked, outplayed, and out coached by an inferior Texas squad.
Notre Dame proved they didn't belong. After Michigan got bukkakked by a huge load of gator spunk, that ND SOS is starting to look highly suspect.
The best game Clemson played all year was on the road at A&M, which could have easily been a loss and nearly was.
As far as I am concerned, only one team had a superior claim to a spot in the CFP: Alabama
The unfortunate (or fortunate, whatever) result of all this horse shite is an 8-game playoff format when the current 12-year contract expires in 2026. By then, Nick Saban will either still be coaching at Alabama or dead. He will never retire.
So, just buckle up and put on your rain gear, because we're in for another 7 years of tears and incessant CPF sobbing about being snubbed for the pleasure of being Alabama's jizz rag.
In sum: Quit bitching and take your beatings from Saban's third leg.
The big 12 was bitching about it too, but the CFP Committee threw them an unjustified bone, so they remained silent, especially after the 1st quarter, when Alabama was giving the money shot.
Of course, UCF would have been bitching about it, but they failed to beat LSU's 3rd string.
Then, there's Georgia, who would have had a somewhat legitimate gripe about getting left out, had they not let LSU make sweat love to their quivering anuses and subsequently proved they didn't belong by getting absolutely punked, outplayed, and out coached by an inferior Texas squad.
Notre Dame proved they didn't belong. After Michigan got bukkakked by a huge load of gator spunk, that ND SOS is starting to look highly suspect.
The best game Clemson played all year was on the road at A&M, which could have easily been a loss and nearly was.
As far as I am concerned, only one team had a superior claim to a spot in the CFP: Alabama
The unfortunate (or fortunate, whatever) result of all this horse shite is an 8-game playoff format when the current 12-year contract expires in 2026. By then, Nick Saban will either still be coaching at Alabama or dead. He will never retire.
So, just buckle up and put on your rain gear, because we're in for another 7 years of tears and incessant CPF sobbing about being snubbed for the pleasure of being Alabama's jizz rag.
In sum: Quit bitching and take your beatings from Saban's third leg.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:36 am to VermilionTiger
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At some point, results on the field need to matter.
Results on the field do matter...that's why Ohio State got left out this year...they loss to a 6-7 Purdue team by 29 points. Last year, Ohio State lost a non-competitive game to Oklahoma and got blew out by a mediocre Iowa team. If you award spots only to conference champs, then results on the field don't matter and the regular season means less. It wouldn't have mattered that Purdue spanked Ohio State; they would've gotten a pass for that game...
Also, you could get situations where teams with 3+ losses get in...Washington was PAC-12 champ and had 3 losses. Had Northwestern pulled the upset, they'd have been a 4 loss B1G champ; losing to Akron at home wouldn't have mattered at all...
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:40 am to CU_Tigers4life
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don't lose by 4 touchdowns to Purdue
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
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The B10 and Pac just want their chance to lose to the SEC like everyone else.
They are going to push for conference champ auto qualifiers
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:43 am to lsufball19
Gotcha.
The conference issue doesn't bother me with Notre Dame. It's how they tend to struggle with lesser competition and fail the eye test.
No one thought Notre Dame had a chance against Clemson, but under the current format it would have been incredibly tough to leave Notre Dame out of the playoff.
If we go to a six or an eight team playoff the arguments will nearly disappear, but so will what's left of bowl season.
Regardless of what people want, we're headed that way.
The conference issue doesn't bother me with Notre Dame. It's how they tend to struggle with lesser competition and fail the eye test.
No one thought Notre Dame had a chance against Clemson, but under the current format it would have been incredibly tough to leave Notre Dame out of the playoff.
If we go to a six or an eight team playoff the arguments will nearly disappear, but so will what's left of bowl season.
Regardless of what people want, we're headed that way.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:44 am to OldPete
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Results on the field do matter...that's why Ohio State got left out this year...they loss to a 6-7 Purdue team by 29 points. Last year, Ohio State lost a non-competitive game to Oklahoma and got blew out by a mediocre Iowa team. If you award spots only to conference champs, then results on the field don't matter and the regular season means less. It wouldn't have mattered that Purdue spanked Ohio State; they would've gotten a pass for that game...
Had tOSU only lost by a few points such as a TD or less, I still think they get because the young Purdue fan that die of Cancer that lifted the team in that win makes me think the CFP throws the Buckeyes a mulligan. But the loss was so huge it just couldn't be overlooked.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:49 am to Nitro Express
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No one thought Notre Dame had a chance against Clemson, but under the current format it would have been incredibly tough to leave Notre Dame out of the playoff.
My view on Notre Dame is they played 10 P5 games this year, and they had a better SOS (according to ESPN at least LINK ) on selection Sunday than Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but it is what it is. They beat everyone on their schedule and earned their way into the playoff. They were never going to pass the eye test, but at the end of the day, they did earn it more so than Oklahoma, Ohio State, or Georgia.
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If we go to a six or an eight team playoff the arguments will nearly disappear, but so will what's left of bowl season. Regardless of what people want, we're headed that way.
I mostly agree with this, except I think they'll always be teams complaining, right or wrong, regardless of how many teams we add to the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:49 am to randomways
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You used that claim to support your original contention that Delaney was right to ask. You made it conditional on the premise that the committee can't get the four teams right.
Wrong.
I gave an opinion that Delaney was correct to ask the committee for clarification and another opinion that the committee can't get the four teams right. That's why you needed to take that out of context to give us your idiotic reply.
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My reply wasn't some random choice of words.
Obviously. It was something you just learned in your undergrad work, and you've incorrectly applied it here.
It happens. You should've attended a better school.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:51 am to CU_Tigers4life
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All I can say is that for the most part, the top 2 teams that have competed for the National Title in each of the years on the Playoffs for the most part have been significantly better than the other 2 teams that made the dance.
#4 has won the playoff twice. #2 has won the playoff twice. #1 and #3 haven't won yet.
Or are you not talking about rankings?
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:53 am to 14&Counting
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They are going to push for conference champ auto qualifiers
And that would be absolute, complete, and total bullshite.
Completely ridiculous.
If they are going to do that, just make it a field of 64 after week 8 and start playing for the title.
The Sunbelt, AAC, CUSA, and Mountain West Conference champs do not belong in the top 20, much less the top 4 or 8. Most years, the Big 12 and Pac12 champs don't belong. After seeing the bukkake of gator goo on Meat Chicken's face, I would argue that the B1G champ would be on the outside looking in at a field of 8.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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#4 has won the playoff twice. #2 has won the playoff twice. #1 and #3 haven't won yet.
Or are you not talking about rankings?
I said the top 2 teams that COMPETED...Not rankings. I am satisfied that the top 2 teams that made it to the finals were the best 2 teams as they displayed in the semifimal matches
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:54 am to Cheese Grits
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You can say that but look where he spent most of his life. It was not in the SEC.
Long was born in Ohio
Played QB in Ohio
Went to college in Ohio
Had his first coaching job in Ohio
Coached at Michigan
Assistant AD at Michigan
Married a woman from Ann Arbor (home of Michigan)
If he is in his mid to late 50's then his formative years were spent in the B1G
But this micromanaging of personal histories can go overboard. This is a much more mobile era -- does anyone associate Saban with the B12 (WV footprint, though I think it would have been the Southern conference back then) or the B10 (MSU)? Would anyone have objected had Les Miles been an SEC rep after leaving LSU despite Les not being an "SEC man" in terms of his past? Long was at Arkansas for nine years and there's no reason to think he wouldn't represent the SEC interests, especially since he was under a major microscope, being the head of that first committee.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:59 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I gave an opinion that Delaney was correct to ask the committee for clarification and another opinion that the committee can't get the four teams right. That's why you needed to take that out of context to give us your idiotic reply
Here, I'll put it in context:
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Delaney is right to ask for clarification from the committee who can't get four teams right...
The statement clearly defined Delaney being right to ask in terms of a committee that can't get four teams right. You stupid lying frick.
Dude, you can wriggle and weasel about all you like, but it just makes you look like a bitch too afraid to even concede he's wrong. Seriously, that's what people who are insecure about their intelligence do.
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