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re: The actual theme song for SEC on ABC

Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:41 am to
Posted by SEC Doctor
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:41 am to
Why did they include Missouri in an SEC promo?
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:44 am to
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Yep that sucks. Nothing will ever top the SEC on CBS




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Nor will anyone top Gary and Brad.


Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
3036 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:52 am to
They have merged Dallas and the A-Team much like the SEC has merged with the big 12
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68616 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:56 am to
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I’m obviously talking about Greg Sankey failing to get the right deal with CBS,

CBS had a sweetheart deal from years and years ago and wanted that same sweetheart deal again. IIRC, CBS balked at paying market value to renew the contract with the SEC

Here's a brief synopsis of what happened from a yahoo article. It dates back to when Slive was commissioner. And it was the SEC presidents on the same page with the commissioner. CBS was being cheap and wanted to keep being cheap.

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In May 2008, inside a meeting room at the Hilton Sandestin along the panhandle of Florida, SEC athletic directors gathered to hear the news: The league was in the final stages of renewing its agreement with CBS.

In one of college football’s richest television deals, they were told, CBS would pay roughly $825 million over a 15-year period, or $55 million annually — roughly double what the network gave the league in the previous eight-year contract.

“The room was celebratory,” said Kentucky athletic director Mitch Barnhart, the only AD present then who is still in the league. “It was a big deal. It gave us stability and staying power.”

However, only a few years into the deal, issues arose.

In 2012, the SEC expanded to add Texas A&M and Missouri to become a 14-team league.

While CBS owned rights to the No. 1 football game each week — as well as two doubleheaders a year — ESPN owned all other SEC games. When the league expanded, ESPN paid what is described as “pro-rata,” increasing distribution from 12 units to 14 to account for the two new schools.

CBS declined to do the same.

Despite multiple attempts from Slive, the network refused to distribute an extra two units. The issue became a years-long tussle between Slive and SEC presidents against the network. It served as the first real fissure between the parties — one that widened as time passed.

“Every time this contract came up in conversation, there wasn’t much love for CBS,” said R. Bowen Loftin, the former Texas A&M and Missouri president who is now retired. “They did us no favors. I felt, and we all felt, they owed us something.”

But a compromise was, indeed, struck around the expansion, said McManus, then president of CBS Sports. It just didn’t involve money.

In the original contract with CBS, the network owned the three-hour exclusive window starting at 3:30 p.m. ET. No SEC games could kick off during that stretch. After expansion, the network permitted the league to air games during that window on the SEC Network, which started that same year as the Aggies and Tigers entered the conference.

“That was the exchange in value,” McManus said.

Others look at it differently.

“The $55 million is burned in my brain. It never went up,” said Machen, who presided then over the SEC presidents and chaired the league’s media rights committee. “They just dug their heels in. They would not move. I don’t know why. We thought CBS would fold. We thought they would get competitive. We thought at the end of the contract they’d fear losing us and it would bump.”

Over the course of several years, Slive and the SEC made a series of short-term ultimatums to CBS. “We’d say, ‘OK, you’re not going to get away with this small amount much longer!’ and we’d push another two or three years,” Machen recalled.

Nothing worked. Nothing changed.

In fact, the qualms between league administrators and the network only grew.



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By the time 2019 rolled around — a decade into the contract — CBS held, by far, the No. 1 single-game weekly package in all of college sports and yet only paid about $3.5 million per game. For comparison's sake, ESPN will soon pay around $20 million for that same game.

For CBS, that’s the sign of a strong deal, some say.

Mike Aresco, now commissioner of the American Athletic Conference, worked with McManus and the late SEC consultant Chuck Gerber in striking that 2008 renewal agreement. He acknowledges that the deal was “favorable” for CBS.

“That’s when the SEC won seven straight championships,” Aresco said. “Then it became really valuable.”

The SEC finalized the 2008 agreement during the exclusive negotiating window with CBS. The league never took the package to market, something that may not have produced great results, said Womack. Neither NBC nor Fox was interested. And ESPN already had secured the cable portion of the SEC’s deal. ABC inked deals with other leagues.

“You look around at the competition in the marketplace, it wasn't that much,” Womack said. “That CBS package has proven … look, like most long-term deals, you look back and the agreement might not look as good as when you did the deal.”



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In the end, two entities vied for the SEC’s weekly top football game rights: CBS and ESPN.

Sankey describes the negotiations as “straightforward rights conversations,” and while he declined to reveal specifics, he told Yahoo Sports that he entered with the “first priority” as renewing with CBS.

What happened?

“I respect that CBS had to make decisions. CBS understands we had to make decisions,” Sankey said. “Everybody makes decisions. I’m a more forward-looking person.”

McManus said the separation was “amicable.” The financials just didn’t make “sense” for both parties.

“There was no hidden agendas,” he said. “We went into it trying to make a deal that we thought benefited both sides. It was as simple as that.”

ESPN and ABC made an aggressive play. Toward the end of the negotiations, the network’s offer increased to at least $300 million for the 15-game package. But talks went beyond money. Having all of a league’s broadcasting rights under one single network umbrella provided flexibility and control for the conference when it comes to kickoff times — a key issue in the decision, Sankey said.

ESPN ultimately landed the package.


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This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 11:57 am
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 11:59 am to
They should just play the OG sport center theme song.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:05 pm to
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It was just a hype video (don’t know how people don’t know the difference)


Um.. it was a demo video of their graphics package and it's not surprising people assumed that would also include sound track.

Also, that song is just as bad. frick ABC. frick ESPN. frick Sankey. And frick You.


Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Um.. it was a demo video of their graphics package and it's not surprising people assumed that would also include sound track.

It was a highlight package with an actual song in the background.

And they’re comparing it to the CBS intro.

No Network has ever used an actual song as the theme song. They use some sort of generic instrumental (like the CBS song and the song in my OP)
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
2448 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Its like an 80's primetime drama, like Dallas or Falcon's Crest.


Lol first thing that came to mind for me was the old Mario Golf & Mario Tennis games
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
7971 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:40 pm to
This is the old ABC college football them from the 90s and 2000s!!! This is awesome!!!

Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:42 pm to
Sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon intro. That was really bad.
Posted by HammerSlammer
Member since Dec 2022
211 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:46 pm to
I get Dallas, Charlie’s Angels and maybe Rockford Files
Posted by ShreveportTIGER318
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2008
2852 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 12:54 pm to
It seemed to be a play on the ESPN college football theme music from the 90's, not anything from ABC in the 2000s.
Posted by mortgageman82
Austin. TX
Member since Jul 2021
316 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:20 pm to
Honestly the music is the least of my worries here. I prefer the old callback to that ESPN music (man makes me think of Ron Franklin who was my favorite analyst). They could do much worse with some new style something. I’m amazed how many here don’t remember or recognize that variation on the old ESPN music.

The actual video content and graphics are just really bad. I can’t believe they couldn’t come up with something better than that. Show more SEC teams, even the details are horrendous. Texas does not have burnt orange face masks on the helmet. To whomever said it just looked like something AI would shoot out, you’re correct.

CBS song was great, nothing was going to beat that…
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9560 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:24 pm to
That sounds so dated.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5685 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Honestly the music is the least of my worries here.


frick you go back to the Big XII.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70207 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:26 pm to
Why don't they just use the SEC Nation intro they already own the copyright for, it's already produced, it's already accepted by the SEC fans, and you aren't trying to compete with something as iconic as the CBS song so nobody will judge you too harshly for it.
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1199 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:26 pm to


Ok, just so I get this straight.

People are bitching about the new song for ABC which is a rework of the old ESPN song from the 80s saying the song is old, etc.

However, they point to the CBS song, which was also from the 80s and used LONG LONG LONG before the CBS had the SEC.

Do I have that right?

It will be interesting to see if it grows on people over the next couple of seasons.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 1:42 pm to
Well yes some people are saying that.

To me, it just sounds terrible. Doesn’t have the feel of most of the football intro songs. Don’t know how to describe it.

I also recognize that everyone liking the CBS song is mostly nostalgia and correlating it with the 2:30 game for so long. Don’t see myself growing to like this one as much but we’ll see
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3733 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 2:01 pm to
It's not trashy or annoying IMO. It would be better with a marching band sound. I equate college football with marching band music, not today's rap or hip hop.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
21077 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 2:02 pm to
Holy shite. Is it 1985?

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