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re: Texas destroyed the big 12 and now people want to let them in the SEC
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:06 am to RelentlessTide
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:06 am to RelentlessTide
Bookmarked for a future date.
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:14 am to CharlotteSooner
quote:OU is like the mob boss' bodyguard. Sure, you could kick the boss' arse, but you still do exactly as you're fricking told.
For lil whornlet being the strong-arming cancer of the BIG XII you dorks seem to think they are, you'd think they'd have twisted things enough to win the league every once in a while.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:16 am to MrMojoRisin
LSU gonna make Texas its $$$$$ 
Gumps and Aggies are sure worried. How exactly can Texas destroy the SEC?
Gumps and Aggies are sure worried. How exactly can Texas destroy the SEC? This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:17 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:19 am to MrMojoRisin
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Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado and aTm all left the big 12 to get away from Texas. frick Texas. OU is fine, but no way we should allow Texas into the SEC.
I'd prefer most any other team besides Texas
If I had my choice we'd get OU the best East Coast team we could
Texas is just going to water down the SEC
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:25 am to RelentlessTide
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The mistake in your logic is to assume the SEC can be dominated by any school. This is not the Big 1, mimime, and the little 10.
Bama, LSU, UGA, Fl, et. al. will not tolerate that.
As the Big 12 was formed, Nebraska was coming off back-to-back national championships. One of those teams is still considered one of the very best teams to ever play. They would win a 3rd in the second year of the Big 12.
They had not won less than 9 games since 1968, stretching back to an era when 10 games was the regular season. They were led by a coach that would go on to be elected to Congress after he retired.
It is an overstatement to say Nebraska of the 90's was the Alabama of today, but it was a dynasty of considerable historical heft and led by a legendary coach.
Add in OU (3 natty's in the previous 20-odd years), Colorado (another natty in the early 90's), and, yes, an A&M team that beaten them 10 of the previous 12 years.
They were all crowded out by the machinations of Texas, all for money and power.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:30 am to MrMojoRisin
Nebraska, Colorado, A&M, and Mizzou left because the Big 12 was busted from the ground up: unequal revenue sharing, ridiculous T1-T3 media right rules, an inferior network deal, and an utter lack of transparency. Texas took advantage of all of these rules, though so did Texas A&M, OU, and Nebraska to lesser extents. From its inception, the Big 12 was a Frankenstein's monster. It was doomed to fail.
Texas simply cannot behave that way in the SEC because the conference is better constructed and it will have more peers on equally footing as them to keep them in check.
Texas simply cannot behave that way in the SEC because the conference is better constructed and it will have more peers on equally footing as them to keep them in check.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:32 am to BreakawayZou83
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Texas took advantage of all of these rules, though so did Texas A&M, OU, and Nebraska to lesser extents
This is a good, fair point. A&M rode along with it, but Texas was always the one pushing for more, more, more.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:34 am to Ag Zwin
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As the Big 12 was formed,
This is not the Big 12, its the established SEC with years of traditions and a core group of universities that will not tolerate Texas antics like a Longhorn network. Its not going to happen Aggie. I have said it the core of the SEC Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Ole Piss, Vandy, Tenn, State are like brothers. They fight amongst each other but when the new friends (OU, Texas, Aggies, Rkansas, Mizzu, USC) come in start stuff, the brothers band together and put put the others their place. Alabama, LSU, Florida, and Georgia are the power players in the SEC.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:43 am to FreddieMac
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I have said it the core of the SEC Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Ole Piss, Vandy, Tenn, State are like brothers. They fight amongst each other but when the new friends (OU, Texas, Aggies, Rkansas, Mizzu, USC) come in start stuff, the brothers band together and put put the others their place. Alabama, LSU, Florida, and Georgia are the power players in the SEC.
Wow. Impressive bit of blowing sunshine up your own arse there.
Seems like it’s always LSU posters trotting this line out there. Bama, Florida, and Georgia don’t seem to need this little gang you keep forming.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:43 am to MrMojoRisin
I'm thinking that the SEC will keep them in check. They aren't a big fish in a small pond now. Bama, UGA, UF, and LSU won't let Texas push them around.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:46 am to MrMojoRisin
They won't have the same influence in the SEC they possessed in the Big12.
They'll fall in line or they're welcome to piss off
They'll fall in line or they're welcome to piss off
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:47 am to Tantal
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OU is like the mob boss' bodyguard. Sure, you could kick the boss' arse, but you still do exactly as you're fricking told.
Yeah our boss tells us to kick their asses every year so we do it. Great narrative.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:53 am to MrMojoRisin
Yea but they won’t have the power they’ve had before. They were always the big fish in those conferences. They either fall in line with the big boys of the SEC or they can get fd.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:08 pm to Ag Zwin
What a bunch of beta bitch fans in here
Having UT and OU is great for the conference. Aggies are scared as frick they’ll be forgotten like Arkansas
Having UT and OU is great for the conference. Aggies are scared as frick they’ll be forgotten like Arkansas
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:09 pm to MrMojoRisin
Even as newcomers, Texas will hold a great deal of power in the SEC simply because of their TV markets...
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:30 pm to MrMojoRisin
UT was so powerful because its alum dominated the political spectrum in Austin. That has absolutely nothing to do with how the SEC operates. As well, the rest of the BIG 12 were pussies & let the Horns walk all over them. THAT is not happening in the SEC.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:34 pm to Locoguan0
TV markets? The LongHorn Network has been a huge failure & ESPN has been dying to get out of that contract. Their market does not extend beyond the State line as been proven over the years of the contract.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:02 pm to Keltic Tiger
People seem to not understand that Texas was caught having secret talks with the PAC-10 in 2008/2009.
A&M didn't want to go. Missouri and Colorado decided to start looking elsewhere. Colorado ended up in the Pac-10. Missouri would not accept a junior membership with the Big 10 and were still having talks when Nebraska jumped in willing to accept junior membership.
The Big 12 seemed to stabilize briefly, but while Mizzou's chancellor Deaton was giving a speech for the Big 12 as Big 12 chairman, OU's President Boren gave a speech saying OU wouldn't be Wallflowers. Deaton then said F this and reached out to UF President Machen and Mike Slive to discuss moving to the SEC.
Texas started the mess by flirting with the Pac-10 and trying to get A&M to go along.
A&M didn't want to go. Missouri and Colorado decided to start looking elsewhere. Colorado ended up in the Pac-10. Missouri would not accept a junior membership with the Big 10 and were still having talks when Nebraska jumped in willing to accept junior membership.
The Big 12 seemed to stabilize briefly, but while Mizzou's chancellor Deaton was giving a speech for the Big 12 as Big 12 chairman, OU's President Boren gave a speech saying OU wouldn't be Wallflowers. Deaton then said F this and reached out to UF President Machen and Mike Slive to discuss moving to the SEC.
Texas started the mess by flirting with the Pac-10 and trying to get A&M to go along.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:06 pm to MrMojoRisin
Texas is in for a rude awakening when they join. That bullshite won’t fly here
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:17 pm to Keltic Tiger
29 million in TX and a national program... That is a TV market. No one team can carry its own network.
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