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Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by JustinOKC
OKC
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:50 pm to
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OU has a better team than Texas.



You don’t even believe this.


Decades of Oklahoma being better than Texas absolutely creates belief. Every year Texas is over hyped and every year Texas fails to meet expectations. Four conference championships in 30 years for Texas.. Be better
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6628 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:06 pm to
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Decades of Oklahoma being better than Texas absolutely creates belief


Which team has the more recent national championship? Playoff appearance? Conference championship?

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Four conference championships in 30 years for Texas


You just gave your head coach an extension because the admin knew it would be more justifiable now, rather than after a 7-5 season in 2024.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 10:47 am
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:17 pm to
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Every year Texas is over hyped and every year Texas fails to meet expectations.

You've certainly had the better program for a long time, but is this really an argument any okie should be making? If anything it's a push in this department.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14257 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:23 pm to
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I expect OU to be on about the same level as the Cats this year.


Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3291 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:48 pm to
Why do you bother posting this stuff?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60854 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Texas & Oklahoma



Neither have Big Blue Titties!

Only BBN can claim that for the conference

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65630 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:31 pm to
Once sec play starts though there isn't as much of a break from good competition 1 on 1. It takes a toll. Cream will rise to top
Posted by Yukons Worst
Member since Jun 2022
944 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:36 pm to
Delusional everyone of you dips shits.



Posted by CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
1524 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:41 pm to
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As I recall, the standard SEC line back then was that the scoring was so high in the BigXII because we didn't play defense. The real defenses were in the SEC. Then aggy rolls in and starts lighting up their scoreboards and has their best season in years, and mizzou starts immediately winning the East. It was funny as hell to watch it happen.


It was interesting that both teams were “successful” immediately after joining the conference, although neither has amounted to much since. They didn’t really amount to much during those seasons either, tbh.

ATM rode Maziel’s coattails to a Heisman Trophy and… a tie for 2nd place in their division. They haven’t won more than nine games in a season since. Lightning in a bottle.

Missouri won a pitiful East division two years running, only to get trounced by Alabama and Auburn in the SECCG both seasons. Then, with all that momentum, they didn’t win a conference game for the next two years.

Both teams are working on their third head coach since joining the conference. I expect UT and OU to generally be more competitive, but it’s ridiculous to think either team will come in dominate in any particular fashion. Even the best teams from the conference’s recent NC winners… UGA, Bama, LSU have had nailbiters against “inferior” teams during the regular season. Some of the most talented teams to ever play didn’t make it through unscathed.

Anyone expecting a road game in Auburn, Knoxville, Oxford, Gainesville, Starkville, etc. to be similar to playing at TCU or OSU is in for a surprise. Thats what makes the schedules hard, not necessarily the talent disparity. Play Bama, LSU, UGA, then turn around and play a pretty good squad on the road with 150,000 people on campus.

And say, just for fun, that one of the new guys has a great year and wins the division. Their reward? Not some chump, but UGA or some other top 5 team lined up across the field in Atlanta. Best of luck “lighting up” anything immediately.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:45 pm to
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I think many of their fans greatly underestimate the impact of stepping up in conferences. Fighting to survive week in week out takes its toll over a long season.


Mizzou came in and went 7-1 in year 2 and year 3.

How hard can it be?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14257 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:53 pm to
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Even the best teams from the conference’s recent NC winners… UGA, Bama, LSU have had nailbiters against “inferior” teams during the regular season. Some of the most talented teams to ever play didn’t make it through unscathed.


This happens in every league, champ. All conferences.
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1330 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:16 pm to
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Weren't A&M and Mizzous' best seasons the first 2 they came over from the Big 12? Serious question.


2012 - A&M 6-2 in conference play
2020 - A&M 8-1 in conference play
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
6628 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:56 pm to
Do you get triggered by all the obvious clickbait on the internet?
Posted by ElChupacabra
Member since Jun 2023
664 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:51 pm to
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Delusional everyone of you dips shits.


It's a terrible comp but that wasn't written by a Texas fan you retard.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3290 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:06 am to
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Anyone expecting a road game in Auburn, Knoxville, Oxford, Gainesville, Starkville, etc. to be similar to playing at TCU or OSU is in for a surprise. Thats what makes the schedules hard, not necessarily the talent disparity. Play Bama, LSU, UGA, then turn around and play a pretty good squad on the road with 150,000 people on campus.


I'm so tired of hearing how tough it is to play at SEC venues as opposed to a Big XII venue where the other team's fans totally despise you. We know that SEC venues are tough... but Big XII stadiums are capable of being intimidating as well.

Oklahoma State is a rough spot if you are Oklahoma or Texas. Fans are jacked up sky high and they are right on top of the teams. There is no space between you and them. No hedges... no nothing. Just a bunch of people in orange screaming at you. Places like Stillwater, Ames, Lubbock and Manhattan are no picnic.

We heard this same thing this time last year when Texas was getting ready to go into Tuscaloosa. Texas and their fans would be overwhelmed by the SEC atmosphere. Well, apparently they weren't.

Secondly, playing Big XII teams is tricky because what they lacked in physicality... they made up for with really high level OCs, QBs, receivers, and an occasional running back. Mahomes and Brock Purdy are NFL stars from the conference.

Finally, we hear over and over again about the SEC "beating each other up"... Yet pretty much every year a team...or two...or three... rolls through the conference pretty much unscathed. None of the other teams actually beat them even though they are supposedly "beat up" by the conference.

This is why outsiders claim the league is "top heavy". If it weren't... we would routinely see SEC champs with three conference losses. But we never do. The champ usually makes it through without a loss or at most one loss.



Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3976 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:41 am to
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You don’t even believe this.


OU is better on defense across the board and better at every offensive position other than OL. QB is still undetermined. OU beat Texas’ best team in almost two decades last year with a roster that was 60% portal transfers. If you are being totally realistic y’all are used to losing to OU, why is it any different now?
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 8:42 am
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:52 am to
The addition of Texas and Oklahoma is growing on me, especially Texas. Most of us don’t really care about the term “blue blood” because it’s outdated (you think Nebraska fans go to bed at night thankful they’re a blue blood?), but the cool part about that term is, other than Bama, it usually describes a “has been” — this carries the same type of mystique as a famous actor or athlete who retired early… seeing them play is like reading about ancient history. Most of us weren’t there and that makes it cooler.

Why I like Texas in the SEC: Texas was good in the 60s and has been relatively worthless since. I’m sure they’re ashamed of it, but it’s still pretty cool to the rest of us, in the same way that watching WW2 documentaries is probably cooler to people who weren’t alive during it. One can’t help but think they’re watching history every time they take the field. What was life in the US like back then? Did they talk about the moon landing? How did JFK’s assassination affect the landscape of college football? And other cool questions.

SEC really only has one “blue blood” (Bama) but they don’t have that same washed-up mystique as they have a relatively recent championship (2017) and were dominant in the 2010s. So it’s good for us to get Texas for sure.

OU is a more complicated one. There’s traits of Texas worthlessness but they always seem to be relevant whereas there was debate whether Texas disbanded its football team for a long time.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 8:54 am
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14257 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:23 am to
Someone is really embittered about not being a "blueblood".
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:42 am to
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Texas was good in the 60s and has been relatively worthless since.

We've had good times and bad times since then. That's how life goes.
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I’m sure they’re ashamed of it

That's called projection.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:04 am to
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Someone is really embittered about not being a "blueblood".


I can assure you that not even Bama fans give a damn about the term. To their credit, I’ve yet to hear one of them brag about being the sole blue blood in the SEC. That shite is for Nebraska / Penn State.

It’s really just something teams do when they have nothing else to brag about other than faded glory. No, really.
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