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re: Texas A&M/Missouri to the SEC decision could happen soon
Posted on 8/1/11 at 4:43 pm to SandStorm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 4:43 pm to SandStorm
Which has more political power in Texas???
Baylor or ATM???
It would be easy for ATM, a state funded school, to sell to the politicians the benefits($$$$) of going to the SEC.
Baylor or ATM???
It would be easy for ATM, a state funded school, to sell to the politicians the benefits($$$$) of going to the SEC.
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Posted on 8/1/11 at 4:50 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
The SEC shouldn't be adding Missouri.
Texas A&M is a natural ally because partly it has rivalry ties to a couple SEC schools and its tradition.
What the SEC needs to do...they need to pick up a team from the East...I'd prefer Clemson or Memphis. Those are the two most viable choices. Florida State or Miami would be a welcome addition but would never accept due to the competition.
Clemson or Memphis in the East...no other team is going to jeapordize a waltz to the BCS games in those crappy conferences.
Texas A&M is a natural ally because partly it has rivalry ties to a couple SEC schools and its tradition.
What the SEC needs to do...they need to pick up a team from the East...I'd prefer Clemson or Memphis. Those are the two most viable choices. Florida State or Miami would be a welcome addition but would never accept due to the competition.
Clemson or Memphis in the East...no other team is going to jeapordize a waltz to the BCS games in those crappy conferences.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 4:51 pm to cjared036
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Which has more political power in Texas??? Baylor or ATM??? It would be easy for ATM, a state funded school, to sell to the politicians the benefits($$$$) of going to the SEC.
Have you not read any of this thread?
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:12 pm to Cajun Revolution
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What the SEC needs to do...they need to pick up a team from the East
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Memphis
What?
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:14 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
The Drunk t-sip is forgetting that last year, maybe, A&M actually did want to stay in a stable Big XII conference.
Leave it to a slimy bunch of UT ambulance chasers to say one thing regarding the agreement to air ONE non-conference game and then, a year later, try to change the agreement.
And leave it to them to keep their conference "partners" completely in the dark regarding their intentions of targeting recruits through the airing High School football (and other?) games.
It's great capitalism, but it is shitty conference membership by Texas. You've broken up one conference and are well on the way again ...
When I'm watching A&M play in Baton Rouge again, or tailgating with Gamecock fans in College Station, the only way I'll remember you nutless steers is in my fight song. As you will, too: "Texas Fight, Texas Fight, and It's Goodbye to A&M"
If DeLoss Dodds takes Texas independent, you'll need a marquis Thanksgiving game with A&M more than an A&M in a stable and knock-down drag-out SEC will need you.
And if neither needs the other, oh well,
Bye.
Leave it to a slimy bunch of UT ambulance chasers to say one thing regarding the agreement to air ONE non-conference game and then, a year later, try to change the agreement.
And leave it to them to keep their conference "partners" completely in the dark regarding their intentions of targeting recruits through the airing High School football (and other?) games.
It's great capitalism, but it is shitty conference membership by Texas. You've broken up one conference and are well on the way again ...
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Texas vs A&M is done if aggie ejects
When I'm watching A&M play in Baton Rouge again, or tailgating with Gamecock fans in College Station, the only way I'll remember you nutless steers is in my fight song. As you will, too: "Texas Fight, Texas Fight, and It's Goodbye to A&M"
If DeLoss Dodds takes Texas independent, you'll need a marquis Thanksgiving game with A&M more than an A&M in a stable and knock-down drag-out SEC will need you.
And if neither needs the other, oh well,
Bye.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:30 pm to Smoke Ring
Baylor had nothing, repeat nothing, to do with realignment last year.
3 schools mattered. UTa, A&M and 0U. 0U decided to go where UTa went and A&M decided Big XII or SEC. The Big XII was determined at that time to be best. If UTa had decided to go to the Pac 12 we would have gone to the SEC
3 schools mattered. UTa, A&M and 0U. 0U decided to go where UTa went and A&M decided Big XII or SEC. The Big XII was determined at that time to be best. If UTa had decided to go to the Pac 12 we would have gone to the SEC
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:38 pm to Big Kat
The reason the Pac16 deal fell through is simple ... The Big12 survived.
At the 11th hour, Beebe put together a deal that upped everyone's Big12 TV money (and made it competitive to what everyone would've gotten in the Pac16) and gave Texas what the Pac16 couldn't (conference TV money + LHN money). No one really wanted to go Pac16 to begin with, but it got to the point that there was really no other viable option than to go Pac16 as neither the SEC or Big10 was takin half the Big12 and the Big12 TV money was outdated and laughable. And when push came to shove (and the TV $$$ appeared out of thin air), everyone realized that they were better off trying to stay together than to head to the West Coast en masse, possibly even without A&M and Oklahoma. Why go somewhere (Pac16) no one wants to go for equal (and possibly less) money?
Texas didn't kill the Pac16. Baylor didn't kill the Pac16. Texas A&M didn't kill the Pac16 ... The Big12 surviving killed the Pac16.
None of us will never know all of the details as there are way too many parties involved, but I can assure you of this: Baylor did not crush the Pac16 deal.
At the 11th hour, Beebe put together a deal that upped everyone's Big12 TV money (and made it competitive to what everyone would've gotten in the Pac16) and gave Texas what the Pac16 couldn't (conference TV money + LHN money). No one really wanted to go Pac16 to begin with, but it got to the point that there was really no other viable option than to go Pac16 as neither the SEC or Big10 was takin half the Big12 and the Big12 TV money was outdated and laughable. And when push came to shove (and the TV $$$ appeared out of thin air), everyone realized that they were better off trying to stay together than to head to the West Coast en masse, possibly even without A&M and Oklahoma. Why go somewhere (Pac16) no one wants to go for equal (and possibly less) money?
Texas didn't kill the Pac16. Baylor didn't kill the Pac16. Texas A&M didn't kill the Pac16 ... The Big12 surviving killed the Pac16.
None of us will never know all of the details as there are way too many parties involved, but I can assure you of this: Baylor did not crush the Pac16 deal.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:55 pm to SandStorm
Memphis works geographically, is a legit basketball school, and their football team won't step on many toes. I think they would be a good program for the SEC. Tell me a viable team for the East that would accept. VA Tech, Miami, Fla State ain't coming...Memphis is a natural cross conference Ole Miss rival and they would be a welcome addition
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:57 pm to JPLSU1981
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Texas didn't kill the Pac16. Baylor didn't kill the Pac16. Texas A&M didn't kill the Pac16 ... The Big12 surviving killed the Pac16.
I have a hard time believing that the current Big 12 a set up in any way shape or form. They have no conference championship game....which puts them on the same level as the Big East imho.
Texas also isn't helping the situation at all. It's basically UT and the little sisters of the poor...
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Memphis works geographically, is a legit basketball school, and their football team won't step on many toes. I think they would be a good program for the SEC. Tell me a viable team for the East that would accept. VA Tech, Miami, Fla State ain't coming...Memphis is a natural cross conference Ole Miss rival and they would be a welcome addition
You do realize that Memphis is one of the 5 worst football programs in the country as of today. I would never want them in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 5:59 pm to JBeam
You're right. Vanderbilt and Kentucky certainly aren't helping bring up the rear in that department.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 6:04 pm to Cajun Revolution
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You're right. Vanderbilt and Kentucky certainly aren't helping bring up the rear in that department.
You can't compare what Vandy & UK have done in the past decade to how far the Memphis program has fallen.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 6:40 pm to heartbreakTiger
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A&M is like adding a 3rd mississippi school and they will just be a bottom feeder here.
You just exposed yourself as either a idiot or too young to know anything. A&M would be a very highly competitive and a huge thorn in LSU's side on the field and especially in recruiting. Their is one team and one team only that could possibly make inroads in recruiting in Louisiana head to head against LSU and that school is Texas A&M.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 7:59 pm to oleheat
quote:i am continually baffled by this. they are anually one of the most overhyped teams in the country. basketball, meh. do they have a baseball team? they're not bringing the academic rep like ga tech or unc. and their market is rural western virginia. they really don't have a big rivalry with any sec team. i'm just not seeing it.
Give us VT in the East
Posted on 8/1/11 at 8:35 pm to bfniii
Obviously dude you have never been to the richmond, baltimore, dc, area. You do know that va tech is only 4 hours away from washington dc right? There are more Va Tech fans in those areas then there are Maryland fans. Also having the SEC brand would help gain more followers in those areas for Va Tech and the SEC.
VA Tech would bring more viewers to the SEC than Ark, Miss St, and Old Miss
VA Tech would bring more viewers to the SEC than Ark, Miss St, and Old Miss
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 8:40 pm to JBeam
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You can't compare what Vandy & UK have done in the past decade to how far the Memphis program has fallen.
And you really can't even compare Kentucky to Vandy, either anymore.
eta: And yes Memphis is literally one of the worst football programs in the country.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 8/1/11 at 8:47 pm to JPLSU1981
For me personally, I would love to see conference expansion and I would like to see
Texas A&M and Missouri come to the SEC. I always enjoyed the rivalry with the Aggies and I sat in Memphis Tenn at the Liberty Bowl in 1978 freezing by butt off only to have Mizzou's running backs move pretty well agains Cholly Mac's defense. I always wanted to get a little revenge. No problem with me for the Aggies and Mizzou to enter the SEC.
Texas A&M and Missouri come to the SEC. I always enjoyed the rivalry with the Aggies and I sat in Memphis Tenn at the Liberty Bowl in 1978 freezing by butt off only to have Mizzou's running backs move pretty well agains Cholly Mac's defense. I always wanted to get a little revenge. No problem with me for the Aggies and Mizzou to enter the SEC.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 8:49 pm to oneusairman
Va tech would be a great pick up for the sec but it wont happen. They got in the ACC because va state govt pulled for it muchlike oklahoma wanting both schools in the same conference. It was a huge deal at the time. Tech also is a fantastic academic institution on par with ga tech. Va tech would be great to add with TAMU but dont see it happening.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 8:56 pm to oneusairman
quote:that's like saying the acc should bring in lsu because lsu has a lot of alumni in houston. doesn't make as much sense for the sec as a&m or unc. besides, it's still true that the majority of va tech alumni/market is rural western va.
Obviously dude you have never been to the richmond, baltimore, dc, area. You do know that va tech is only 4 hours away from washington dc right?
quote:that seems incredibly hard to believe especially given that maryland is significantly larger than va tech.
There are more Va Tech fans in those areas then there are Maryland fans.
quote:it seems to me it would make more sense to grab a ncar school before va tech. you would get the fast growing triangle market, would get natural rivalries and would be geographically close. heck, i'd much rather have virginia than va tech.
Also having the SEC brand would help gain more followers in those areas for Va Tech and the SEC.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 9:22 pm to SunHog
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As is top half of Arkansas is to eastern Tennessee as the bottom half of Arkansas is to Mississippi.
FIFY. Since the the advent of the current two major political parties in the US and the ensuing civil war, only twice has the 1st Congressional District of Tennessee elected a Democrat to office (1870's) and the 2nd District never has. In fact during the Civil War the representatives (on the Unionist ticket) from those districts were permitted to take their seats notwithstanding Tennessee's joining the Confederacy.
The geography of both areas is the key -- neither eastern Tennessee nor the Ozarks was conducive to plantation farming, so the support for slavery simply didn't exist.
Posted on 8/1/11 at 9:30 pm to Quidam65
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As is Northwest quarter of Arkansas is to eastern Tennessee as the eastern half of Arkansas is to Mississippi.
FIFY
The SW quadrant of Arkansas is to Oklatexiana.
This post was edited on 8/1/11 at 9:31 pm
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