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Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by TennVOLS423
Sarasota
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:16 pm to
Its unfortunate that we do not have a lot of in-state talent.

But that shows Tennessee sells itself, we have done well with recruiting out of state.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:18 pm to
UT as a program has everything going for them except for one and that is a large in state recruiting base. It is extremely tough to stay on top when you have to get all of your players from out of state and most of those other states keep their kids at home.

During Tennessee's run in the late 90's early 2000's, they got most of their players from 3 states whose programs were all average at the time: Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia. Now those states do a pretty good job of keeping players home.

UT will always be solid, but I don't see them ever being what they were.....kind of like Nebraska.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36164 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

During Tennessee's run in the late 90's early 2000's, they got most of their players from 3 states whose programs were all average at the time: Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia. Now those states do a pretty good job of keeping players home.



They got a lot of kids from California in the 90s too... USC returning to excellence dried this up a little
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30458 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 2:24 pm to
Their proximity to Charlotte, ATL and SC aren't as fruitful as it used to be. In the last 10 years, USC has had Holtz and the OBC there. That program is way better than it was in the hey-dey of the Vols (1990s). Are they world-beaters? No, but even if they keep 3-4 kids a year at USC and away from the Vols that's huge in a recruiting class. And the Heels now have one of the best recruiters in the business in Butch. Same thing with the Wreck and Paul Johnson. If those 2 programs keep a few kids a class that the Vols historically would've pulled, that makes it a lot tougher for the Tenn program.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20836 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:22 pm to
Alabama has better talent than Tennessee, but it's not why they're successful. It's all about the coach. Great instate recruiting allows overrated/inept coaches like Mack Brown/Les miles to succeed, but the really good coaches can get it done even when they have to work harder to get the talent they need.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36164 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:25 pm to
it's a helluva lot harder tho... look through the recent NCs and they all got a ton of their talent in state
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20836 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:31 pm to
How many of Bama's starting lineup last year was from Alabama? I honestly have no idea I'm just wondering.

The past few championships have had great talent from their own state, but with the exception of Miles and Brown, they've all had really good coaches/recruiters as well. How many of LSU's starters on their title team were recruited by Saban? (Once again, serious question, I don't know the breakdown by year)

And yes, it's obviously harder, but not impossible. I'm not sure how many Oklahoma gets out of Texas, but there is plenty of talent and teams without as much instate talent can still compete for titles.
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 4:32 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36164 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:32 pm to
supposedly something like 18 of lsu's starters on teh 03 team were from Louisiana
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44442 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

How many of Bama's starting lineup last year was from Alabama? I honestly have no idea I'm just wondering.


About 40% of it. Something like that. I know Javy, Kareem, Ingram, Richardson, Cody, Hanks, McElroy, Barrett Jones, Carpenter, Mike Johnson, and Justin Woodall were all out of state guys. So are Hightower and Robby Green.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:38 pm to
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Robby Green


LSU nver offered...LSU NEVER OFFERED!!!!!






Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75340 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:43 pm to
Tennessee was first tier from 1997-2002.

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