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Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:56 am to TouchdownTN
FWIW Jamie Dixon was on the radio in Memphis yesterday advocating Pearl.
Said Pearl has done it the right way for 20+ years, and that for him to be severely punished for something that every coach in NCAA could be caught for would be a travesty.
Really stood up for Pearl. GP agreed with him.
What Pearl did was wrong, I really feel like he's been punished enough. 1.5 million, a year off of recruiting, and an 8 game suspension.
Pretty strong punishment for lying about a secondary violation.
Said Pearl has done it the right way for 20+ years, and that for him to be severely punished for something that every coach in NCAA could be caught for would be a travesty.
Really stood up for Pearl. GP agreed with him.
What Pearl did was wrong, I really feel like he's been punished enough. 1.5 million, a year off of recruiting, and an 8 game suspension.
Pretty strong punishment for lying about a secondary violation.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:56 am to NYCAuburn
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Do schools get bonus money from the NCAA tourney, like they do in football in bowls? might be somewhat of a reason
Don't know.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:56 am to beaver
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but didnt Pearl lie to them?
yes and he sent emails to the parents telling them to not tell the whole truth as well. He also told them beforehand they were commiting a violation
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:57 am to CarrytheFight
They suspended Dez Bryant for a year for lying about something that wasn't even a violation. If they actually had a rational system for enforcement ( 
) it would seem that they would suspend Pearl for at least a year considering he lied and it was about a violation.
) it would seem that they would suspend Pearl for at least a year considering he lied and it was about a violation. Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:57 am to NYCAuburn
Uconn also recieved a scholly reduction and some recruiting reductions as well
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:59 am to NYCAuburn
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They suspended Dez Bryant for a year for lying about something that wasn't even a violation. If they actually had a rational system for enforcement ( ) it would seem that they would suspend Pearl for at least a year considering he lied and it was about a violation.
So the NCAA should now give everyone ridiculous and over the top penalties because they gave one to Dez Bryant. I think the NCAA would gain credibility if they learned from that dumb mistake.
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Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:01 am to NYCAuburn
I assume all charges are included in this letter, therefore LOIC is out.
Really it doesn't read all that bad. Sounds like they are putting the blame for football strictly on the previous staff and not the dept. And for basketball, it's still bad, but not as bad as expected. Pearl could still be gone though depending on that unethical conduct charge.
Really it doesn't read all that bad. Sounds like they are putting the blame for football strictly on the previous staff and not the dept. And for basketball, it's still bad, but not as bad as expected. Pearl could still be gone though depending on that unethical conduct charge.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:03 am to NYCAuburn
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Uconn also recieved a scholly reduction and some recruiting reductions as well
Tennessee/Slive has already put all that was put on UCONN and more except for the scholly reduction. But if Bruce could actually get players graduated that wouldn't make a difference.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:05 am to CarrytheFight
LOL, that's nice in theory but in reality they just run around fricking certain teams and players over while letting others off.
FWIW I don't really care if he's suspended for a year, its more of a matter of how arbitrary the NCAA is.
And all the Tennessee talk about how it was just a secondary violation is missing the point. In theory the NCAA is supposed to reward institutions for compliance and full cooperation when they commit violations so they have to do something about a guy who lied and attempted a cover up about a rules violation.
I don't think the program should actually be hit hard. Just Pearl.
FWIW I don't really care if he's suspended for a year, its more of a matter of how arbitrary the NCAA is.
And all the Tennessee talk about how it was just a secondary violation is missing the point. In theory the NCAA is supposed to reward institutions for compliance and full cooperation when they commit violations so they have to do something about a guy who lied and attempted a cover up about a rules violation.
I don't think the program should actually be hit hard. Just Pearl.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:08 am to Crede15
IMO, Pearl is working harder and getting paid less than he would with the inevitable Sportscenter job that he would get if he was fired.
That said, I wouldn't really flinch if he was let go. I love what he's done with the program, but his coaching is frustrating for the most part.
That said, I wouldn't really flinch if he was let go. I love what he's done with the program, but his coaching is frustrating for the most part.
This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:10 am to NukemVol
Pearl is going to get a show cause, prolly 1 year.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:12 am to Crede15
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I don't think the program should actually be hit hard. Just Pearl
This.
I dont really care about the violations that occured. They are pretty trivial and some of these violations nowadays are rediculous.
However, Pearl knowingly commited the violations, told the recruits and families they were commiting them prior and still did it. He then lied to the NCAA that he didnt do them, even though they had evidence to the contrary. He them half way threatened the families to not tell the NCAA. He should be punished, not the team or school. But what can you do sometimes, they punish everyone
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Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:14 am to NYCAuburn
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This.
I dont really care about the violations that occured. They are pretty trivial and some of these violations nowadays are rediculous.
However, Pearl knowingly commited the violations, told the recruits and families they were commiting them prior and still did it. He then lied to the NCAA that he didnt do them, even though they had evidence to the contrary. He them half way threatened the families to not tell the NCAA. He should be punished, not the team or school. But what can you do sometimes, the punish everyone
Now he threatened them?
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:16 am to NYCAuburn
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Pearl knowingly commited the violations
Violation, of a secondary nature
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He them half way threatened the families to not tell the NCAA. He should be punished, not the team or school.
Threatened their families? really?
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:17 am to CarrytheFight
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Now he threatened them?
half way. he told them they better be careful in what they said. I would consider that an implied threat.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:18 am to NYCAuburn
Again, I said the vilotions were trivial. The problem was on pearls side in his dealings with the NCAA not the violations themselves
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:19 am to NYCAuburn
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half way. he told them they better be careful in what they said. I would consider that an implied threat.
If he did in fact say that, what do you think he meant by it? aLSO, I would like a link to these emails.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:20 am to TouchdownTN
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Violation, of a secondary nature
I don't know anything about threatening the families but again this is kind of besides the point. Its not the violation, its the coverup. The NCAA if they want to encourage compliance and cooperation have to hammer somebody if they do the exact opposite.
Again I'm not saying they will, just saying that's what they'd do if they had a rational system.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 10:22 am to Crede15
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I don't know anything about threatening the families but again this is kind of besides the point. Its not the violation, its the coverup. The NCAA if they want to encourage compliance and cooperation have to hammer somebody if they do the exact opposite.
Again I'm not saying they will, just saying that's what they'd do if they had a rational system.
Thats not rational. Rational would be factoring in the severity of the infraction that was covered up.
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