Started By
Message

re: Tell me why Coach O is different from Gene Chizik

Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30275 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm to
Coach O has teeth
Posted by Rip N Lip
What does my VPN say?
Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:13 am to
It took White Boots 3.75 seasons to win a National Championship and Chizick did it in two.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:04 am to
quote:

Tell me why Coach O is different from Gene Chizik


Recruiting.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:36 am to
quote:

After this year, Coach O will not need defending anymore




Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:23 am to
Coach o had the greatest season in college football history followed by the greatest draft in history. That’s why
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:36 am to
it actually did transfer in 2013. As long as you have a mobile qb who can throw slants it is actually a pretty offense. I have no idea why Gus has recruited the qbs he has these last few years.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 6:58 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15784 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:45 am to
Gene Stallings failed some as a head coach as well.

Orgeron seems to be a great recruiter and has identified and hired great assistant coaches.

Chiz is a nice man and some stuff went down that basically was not in his total control.
Gus recruited QBs. None of them were even close to good enough to compete in SEC.

Loefler, the wizard who made Tom Brady, was perhaps the worst hire in football history.
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
1531 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:45 am to
quote:

Tell me why Coach O is different from Gene Chizik


This is the first time I realized they are separate people. I mean I guess they are? Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:46 am to
quote:

This is the first time I realized they are separate people. I mean I guess they are? Have they ever been seen in the same room together?



I mean, we can all agree that Orgeron is a better coach than Jimbo Fisher
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:52 am to
2005 Ole miss 3-8 (1-7 SEC)
2006 Ole Miss 4-8 (2-6
2007 Ole Miss 3-9
2013 USC 6-2.
2016 LSU. 6-2
2017 LSU 9-4
2018 10-3
2019 15-0
That is just wrong. Ed has won more than 9 twice. 2018 & 2019. Beside 2019 he has never had more than 10 wins and less than 2 losses. Ed could keep it going but let's wait and see how much of it was the 6 NFL first rounders and the best oc & dc. He assembled that team no doubt but we just can't for sure say he is going to make a dynasty.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:52 am to
quote:

Message
Tell me why Coach O is different from Gene Chizik by Keltic Tiger
"Below average"; He led LSU to 10 wins, a bowl victory & a Top 6 ranking. When was the last time the gators were that average?
uh 2019
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:09 am to
quote:

2013 USC 6-2.
2016 LSU. 6-2
2017 LSU 9-4
2018 10-3
2019 15-0


80% wins since he got to real schools. Not bad.

We’re so much better prepared on game day than when Miles was here. It’s night and day.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 6:10 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:17 am to
Chizik
2009 8-5
2010 14-0
2011 8-5
2012 3-9

Orgeron
2016 6-2
2017 9-4
2018 10-3
2019 15-0

One is not like the other. Orgeron is clearly building and is recruiting at the highest level.
Look, I get it. You’re scared and insecure. It bothers you that Orgeron has transformed LSU into a beast.
Chizik wasn’t a CEO coach. He hadn’t laid a great foundation. Orgeron is a CEO Coach and he knows how to organize, delegate, motivate and lead. How good was Chizik as a recruiter? How good is Orgeron at recruiting?
RTWFU
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17000 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:18 am to
quote:

it actually did transfer in 2014. As long as you have a mobile qb who can throw slants it is actually a pretty offense. I have no idea why Gus has recruited the qbs he has these last few years.


This guy gets it. Why can't Gus?!
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4650 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Ed could keep it going but let's wait and see how much of it was the 6 NFL first rounders and the best oc & dc. He assembled that team no doubt but we just can't for sure say he is going to make a dynasty.


Dynasties are rare. No team, not even Bama wins it every year. Those 6 NFL first rounders were recruited by O. Knock him if you will, O has shown a willingness to change and step back when needed. All coaches have an ego. To be great you need an ego, yet O is smart enough to recognize weak points and addresses them. There are a lot of teams in the SEC who's fans wish their coach would be willing to do the same.
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:03 am to
I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. I actually predicted he would eventually win an SEC championship in 2018. My point is that he has had plenty of less than 9 win seasons.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:04 am to
quote:

That is just wrong. Ed has won more than 9 twice. 


Its not wrong, my post actually said he's never won less than nine and I was obviously referring to O as head coach at LSU and Chizik as head at Auburn, the positions that are being compared here.

The only time at LSU when Ed won less than 9 was his interim year when he went 6-2.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11304 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:19 am to
Because you are a fricktard is the reason
Posted by DonaldDuckworth
Florida
Member since Jul 2017
1508 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:19 am to
Lots of differences:
1. O is a perfect cultural fit for LSU...Chiz was a chameleon that could have marginally fit anywhere, but also not great anywhere
2. O is a MASTER motivator and recruiter...Chiz was neither
3. LSU flagship school in a state ripe for talent...this+great recruiter and rising program (or risen)=great things. AU will never be the flagship...the fact that we have, at times, recruited as well as we have, is almost puzzling to me
4. O does a fantastic job of surrounding himself with smart people, great assistants, that are strong where he is not as strong...Chiz had a few good coaches and others just seemed like placeholders. His best coaches were Gus and the special teams coach Jay Boulware
5. When Chiz speaks, it leaves your head spinning like you just heard from a politician...he can say a lot, without saying anything at all...and he says it without sounding like the bastard love child of Justin Wilson and a cubic yard of gravel dumped into a running wood chipper
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:26 am to
quote:

 the bastard love child of Justin Wilson and a cubic yard of gravel dumped into a running wood chipper


Lol wow
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 7Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter