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State fires Softball coach.

Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by NoNotMe
Member since Aug 2018
805 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:48 pm
Van Steudaman out. Weird timing.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:52 pm to
7 regional appearances in 8 seasons there. State only had 8 appearances prior to her arrival. But you have to keep up with the Jones’s in the SEC.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:53 pm to
That kind of sucks. I thought she was well liked by the team and MSU seemed to be much improved in the meat grinder that is the SEC.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:07 pm to
Who did she bang?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17755 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:24 pm to
Aw man, I liked Van.

Oh well, there's only coaches who have been fired or will be fired. It's just the business
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
4376 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Who did she bang?


Asking the real questions.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24520 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 2:33 pm to
Consistent but still bottom half of the SEC.
Posted by Hailstate15
ForeverGator's mom's
Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:00 pm to
Definitely not lemonis
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:01 pm to
She’s one of the best and most well connected recruiters in the country. Y’all should have just extended her. It’s likeky moving backwards now.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18084 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

That kind of sucks. I thought she was well liked by the team and MSU seemed to be much improved in the meat grinder that is the SEC.



Much improved. We've finished dead last or next to last all but one season under her. We have 7 out of 8 regional appearances because the SEC is so tough.

Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5687 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
Maybe Bama can hire her back. She was a great assistant there.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18084 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:18 pm to
The whole Patrick Murphy/LSU thing was weird Alabama was willing to hire her so I thought we were getting a good one but she just never panned out. And her deal was being such a great pitching coach and we sucked at pitching.

We went 6-21 in the SEC last year and finished 12th out of 13 teams with THREE first team all-SEC players, the most in the conference.

That's a coaching issue. 8 years and a brand new stadium is enough.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:20 pm to
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She’s one of the best and most well connected recruiters in the country. Y’all should have just extended her. It’s likeky moving backwards now.



She must not be recruiting all that well with a conference record of 69-127 over 8 seasons. Backwards to what? We're already the bottom of the barrel program. She wasn't getting the job done. An extension is laughable. Maybe Ole Miss should take a page out of MSU's book and fire a coach who does the same thing year in and year out (looking at you Bianco)
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28288 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Weird timing.


It is. I was thinking there must have been some kind of transgression, then I read this..........


quote:

During her tenure, Stuedeman has only a 69-127 mark in the Southeastern Conference.



Maybe she wanted a contract extension and State wasn't willing?
Posted by NoNotMe
Member since Aug 2018
805 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 3:37 pm to
My statement on weird timing is it's two months after the season ended. Her record didn't change. Most coaches that are fired for losing are let go within a few days of the season ending.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7910 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:54 pm to
From what I understand the timing stems from the mass transfer of softball players.

This is something that needed to happen. I didn't think Cohen would do it, but he did something right here.

Here's the thing about Vann, argurably, every year was no different from year 1 of her. A bottom sec team who is competive with regional level competition but can't win anymore than a game or 2 in a regional because they simply aren't that good.

Idk what the future of State is, but we discussed some candidates on the MSU Board that I'll probably bring up again.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7910 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Maybe she wanted a contract extension and State wasn't willing?


This is a time when contract extensions are usually discussed so yes this makes sense as well.

My guess is that the conversation didn't turn out well.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7910 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 7:59 pm to
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We went 6-21 in the SEC last year and finished 12th out of 13 teams with THREE first team all-SEC players, the most in the conference.


Yep ANC. It was time. We might be just as bad with a new coach. But we can't be worse because we already were the worst team in the SEC

3 SEC teams: Arkansas, South Carolina, and Ole Miss that were worse than MSU when she took over have easily surpassed Mississippi State.
Posted by NoNotMe
Member since Aug 2018
805 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:04 pm to
There were six transfers out. Most were bit players. Softball has a lot of transfers because you can transfer out of conference without sitting a year. The timing two months after the season ended suggest something else.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7910 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 8:06 pm to
Or the fact that a State Softball player literally just transferred to Florida today.

Not ideal.
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