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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:43 pm to
Damn Butch got cut from the list already? Cohen isn't messing around.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:43 pm to
that has been posted already.

See my reply here
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64978 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Nobody has been offered the job per Will Sammon


generally speaking, official offers are not made until parties are ready to sign. That doesn't mean negotiations haven't happened and been unfruitful for State
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:45 pm to
Technically no coaching job is offered until someone accepts it. Saving face and whatnot
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:46 pm to
Sucks that Cohen had to tell him no. I know that this is Butch's dream job.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14035 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Technically no coaching job is offered until someone accepts it. Saving face and whatnot


true statement

When State does hire their new coach I bet Cohen will say some form of this statement in the press conference. "We targeted one guy and focused all of our efforts to make our guy the next coach at Mississippi State".
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:47 pm to
It would not shock me if we kept Henderson.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:48 pm to
CWS Champion Gary Henderson
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50641 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:49 pm to
After getting rejected by your top 5 or 6 guys then, yes, that makes sense.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

"We targeted one guy and focused all of our efforts to make our guy the next coach at Mississippi State".

Unless it’s Henderson, then it’d probably be something along the lines of, “We could not deny the level of success Henderson brought with him this year in the face of extreme adversity,” or something else along the lines of what Ole Miss spewed out when we retained Luke

ETA: Obviously Henderson had a better season than Luke, and otherwise it’s a loose comparison I’m making between the two situations
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
1657 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:51 pm to
If we keep Henderson, I hope our fans come to realize we're not a top 10 baseball program.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50641 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:53 pm to
Just because you're not a historically top 10 programs doesn't mean you can't be. You've invested heavily into getting top tier facilities. You're at least willing to swing for the fences for a head coach and likely offering a lot of money (probably not the 1.7 M or 1.5 M mentioned previous in this thread).

Regardless of the outcome of this search, State is doing its best to put itself on the path to winning and winning big.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64978 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Regardless of the outcome of this search, State is doing its best to put itself on the path to winning and winning big.

State has always done this.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64978 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
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It would not shock me if we kept Henderson.


I said exactly this last week and you and other State fans thought I was crazy
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50641 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
I'll have to take your word for it. I didn't follow too closely before we joined the SEC.
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
1657 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:59 pm to
Only way I want it is if it means Gautreau can be HC in waiting.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:08 pm to
State is at the absolute best the 3rd best program in the conference (though Carolina and Vandy both have modern titles, and LSU and Florida are clearly better programs, and Arkansas is extremely comparable) which makes it a rough spot even if State were truly a top 10 spot. The SEC is unquestionably the best and most difficult conference, and other comparable programs from other easier conferences can make more attractive offers without having to ask their manager to run the gauntlet
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15401 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:10 pm to
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Shoot for the stars, land on the moon



Shoot for the stars. Look like an idiot for thinking you could reach the stars thus making potential candidates think they are second or third choice and maybe not want to work for an administration that incompetant
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64978 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:11 pm to
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I'll have to take your word for it. I didn't follow too closely before we joined the SEC.

until the last 10 or so years, the only schools in the conference to really invest in their programs were State and LSU. Then Arkansas and USc did, followed shortly after by Ole Miss, then Vandy, etc. Then you saw everyone in the conference follow suit. State may be overdue for an overhaul of their facilities, but their commitment to the program has always been there, even pre-dating LSU. Honestly, Ron Polk doing what he did is largely responsibly for the false sense of entitlement and thinking their program now is more than it actually is.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 4:12 pm
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