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re: Sports Illustrated Article on Ole Miss SIAP

Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:51 pm to
I'm guessing Freeze and Company are gonna scream from the hilltops about the DJ Fluker situation................and lobby for fair treatment...........Bama and Ole Piss burns


Honestly, this is the same shite. Don't throw stones bammers
Posted by bamaqna
Member since Jun 2016
934 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 12:29 am to
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Ask Bama about that. 2001 Bama self imposed 15 schollies. NCAA came back with 21 and a 2 year bowl ban.
And the stuff Bama got accused of was childs play compared to what OM is accused of. If they get out of this with barely any drastic sanctions, their lawyers deserve to have statues of them placed on campus?
Posted by bamaqna
Member since Jun 2016
934 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 12:54 am to
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It would almost be painful to watch a fanbase reach this level of denial, if that fanbase wasn't Ole Miss.
Just when I think you lost some of your venom you come back with the thrax and prove me wrong for doubting your abilities to shame a fanbase
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25340 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:55 am to
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Everyone is forgetting that we wrote our response in conjunction with the ncaa's assistance.

and the NCAA won't forget the the Tunsill draft day saga proves Ole Miss lied during the long arse investigation that led to them write the response in conjunction with the NCAA assistance. That's the death knell here...you thought you had it all wrapped up and then the NCAA finds out your AD forgot the part about the "agreed upon amount", utility bills etc.. You are busted on lieing to the organization that investigated you. Boom.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 4:58 am
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9428 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:12 am to
Wow, this is a lot worse than originally expected. At least 2 year bowl ban and probably 10 more scholarships.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 5:19 am
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11026 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:52 am to
I personally think the dumbest thing OM hasn't done is fire Kiffin. Bama and LSU have recently fired assistants for MUCH less. It helps get the NCAA off your back. Just stupid...Freeze is playing with fire with that shite.
Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:58 am to
If Ole Miss fires anyone else before the NCAA hands down a punishment this thing is just going to look worse. What bothers me is the fact that Bjork and Freeze have both made public appearances, defending the program and the recruiting tactics 100%. Either this is all being blown out of proportion or Bjork and Freeze are fricking delirious morons who don't deserve to ever work in collegiate sports again.
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
916 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:07 am to
I know I wouldn't be happy if I was "working" with a team on their sanctions, believing that I was told everything............them have new stuff pop up like it did. Especially if the stepdad had told them about those situations but OM said he was lying.

Might make me reinvestigate everything stepdad said in that 100 hours worth of interviews. As for the team that straight up lied "again", might not be much mercy shown.
Posted by dores97
Member since Feb 2009
114 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:21 am to
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Ask Bama about that. 2001 Bama self imposed 15 schollies. NCAA came back with 21 and a 2 year bowl ban.

And the stuff Bama got accused of was childs play compared to what OM is accused of. If they get out of this with barely any drastic sanctions, their lawyers deserve to have statues of them placed on campus?


Weren't they already on probation or just coming off when all that happened? I would think that plays into it a little, don't you?
Posted by Emanonion
Member since Dec 2012
1762 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:30 am to
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Wow, this is a lot worse than originally expected. At least 2 year bowl ban and probably 10 more scholarships.


This is all info that the NCAA already has and had long before the NOA. Nothing new will come of this. It's just a bad "journalist" trying to help his buddy.

I would bet at least 20 of the hours spent with the NCAA were with Miller sucking someone's dick. Probably why they went to the car. It's obvious all he is looking for is money and will do anything to get it.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:32 am to
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25023 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 11:23 am to
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This is all info that the NCAA already has and had long before the NOA. Nothing new will come of this. It's just a bad "journalist" trying to help his buddy.

I would bet at least 20 of the hours spent with the NCAA were with Miller sucking someone's dick. Probably why they went to the car. It's obvious all he is looking for is money and will do anything to get it.


You really think so? You think the stuff that Tunsil said on draft night had already been discussed? You think the NCAA opened yet ANOTHER investigation over something they already knew???

Really?

Head in the sand much?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32996 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 12:57 pm to
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quote:
The dad admitted he took $800, but didn't tell Tunsil.

Is that a
it took 100 hours to tell them that? All the text and Facebook messages just to confirm that?


Good point. 100 hours with one person to find so little seems improbable.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1913 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 1:48 pm to
OK, for those that keep saying that the NCAA helped draft the rebuttal to the NOA and therefore they will not increase the penalties:

1. The enforcement staff and those involved in the investigations are not the same people that actually deliver the final punishment.

2. OM's response did not even cover the bare minimums provided by the new enforcement policy guideline. If you go through the new criteria and count up each separate violation and match it to the new NCAA violations matrix you will notice that this is way under representing the expected severity of penalties.

3. The response is expected to be in the ballpark of what the penalties should be, but the NCAA rarely accepts the proposed penalties when it includes Level 1 violations.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 11:28 pm to
You didn't read the ULL sanctions?

Silly you.
Posted by Emanonion
Member since Dec 2012
1762 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:38 am to
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OM's response did not even cover the bare minimums provided by the new enforcement policy guideline. If you go through the new criteria and count up each separate violation and match it to the new NCAA violations matrix you will notice that this is way under representing the expected severity of penalties


This would be very apparent to you had you actually read the NOA. Not going to do your work for you.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
2244 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:00 am to
NCAA coming to take scalps!
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8181 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:56 am to
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NCAA coming to take scalps!



That's racist!
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