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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:48 am to VFL67
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:48 am to VFL67
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Not really sure what Lane Kiffin has done to be ahead of Heupel
Just a total guess on my part, but the article states they're still in the same spot that they were in last season — both teams have since finished 10–3.
Both have nearly identical records over the past three years, but Kiffin still has the edge in overall record.
I bet Heupel would've passed him (at least in my book) with one win or maybe even a better showing in the CFP last year. It's probably that close.
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:50 am to SidewalkTiger
Heupel has a better winning percentage, more seasons finished in the top 10, a playoff appearance, a win at Death Valley, on orange bowl win, and two wins against bama. All in less time than Kiffin.
All these things Lane Kiffin hasn’t done yet. He’s a great coach but Heupel gets seriously disrespected always in these rankings.
All these things Lane Kiffin hasn’t done yet. He’s a great coach but Heupel gets seriously disrespected always in these rankings.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:57 am to John Milner
Sark above Deboer is pretty dumb considering Sark is 0-2 against DeBoer despite Sark being at much better program at the time and DeBoer being at a program that earned Sark the nickname "7 win Sark".
Marcus Freeman rank also kinda dumb.
Marcus Freeman rank also kinda dumb.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:57 am to paperwasp
Yeah, they're basically tied IMO, with maybe the nod to Heupel on overall win percentage.
Tennessee is an easier place to win than Ole Miss though and Heupel took over a better situation at UCF than most of Kiffin's other jobs.
Tennessee is an easier place to win than Ole Miss though and Heupel took over a better situation at UCF than most of Kiffin's other jobs.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:59 am to VFL67
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Heupel has a better winning percentage
Josh Heupel
Record: 37-15 at Tennessee -> 0.712
30-9 Last Three -> 0.769
Lane Kiffin
Record: 44-18 at Ole Miss -> 0.710
29-10 Last Three -> 0.744
True, but assuming my quick math was correct, not significant enough by itself.
I think the playoff appearance could be the difference, but losing by 25 didn't help. Remember people were clamoring for Ole Miss to make it last year too.
(BTW, I can't argue with your reasoning, just playing devil's advocate as to why it might be the case.)
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:59 am to BobLeeDagger
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Dan Mullen at 70 is kinda wild.
I don't think many programs would take Sam Pittman over Dan today if given the option.
Also, how is Billy ahead of him when you look at them side by side at Florida?
Because Napier was the one tasked with cleaning up the huge mess Mullen left.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:03 pm to BobLeeDagger
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Dan Mullen at 70 is kinda wild.
Mullen is a very good coach and he's being judged way too harshly by what happened at Florida. Clearly Florida has issues well beyond the head coach.
His run at Florida wasn't even that bad. He was 34-15 (.694) with 3 major bowl appearances in 4 years. That's a hell of a lot better than anyone at UF not named Spurrier or Meyer (at least within the last 100 years) and it puts him about on par with Sark as far as accomplishments go
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:11 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Napier and Venables are too high. Lea seems low to me. Having just one winning season in 4 years at Vandy is a successful tenure.
And Mullen is way too low. He should be no lower than about #25.
And Mullen is way too low. He should be no lower than about #25.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:23 pm to John Milner
Freeman is only ranked 4 because he black
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:17 pm to paperwasp
In what world is Brent Venables a better head coach than Hugh Freeze?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:21 pm to UFFan
quote:Where was his team ranked at the end of last season? Top 15? Top 10?
Kelly is a top 15 coach at minimum, and probably top 10.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:49 pm to Mr Majestyk
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List is a damn joke.Kelly isn't in the top 30.
When is the last time TN made it to the SEC championship game? Was it when LSU beat them 21 to 14 back in 2007? I think we are in better shape than you guys are lol. I'm surprised the majority of you guys aren't cowboys fans because you definitely act the same during the preseason. We GoINg tO ThE ChIp
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:05 pm to Lakeboy7
Putting 'Day' at #2 is a joke. He's a chronic underachiever that can't beat their biggest rival (Michigan) and mostly wets the bed in big games, and managed to get into the playoffs and win the natty with 2 losses, not winning their division, most other elite teams were riddled with injuries not to mention they spent a bazillion dollars to bring in elite players from all over the country, and STILL barely got in. I consider that NC even less real than Bama's COVID year natty.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:31 am to UFFan
I don’t know. I’m a business owner myself, and poaching staff from other companies sometimes means more problems. They desire more money and often come in with arrogance. I for one like to get interns, train them our way, hire them and mold them to our culture and way of doing things. There are pro’s and cons of both. To each their own, and as of now, his resultscannot be argued with.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:34 am to 1BIGTigerFan
Posted on 5/31/25 at 9:47 am to Buckeye Fan 19
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Has the best winning percentage of all ND head coaches.
This isn’t true. He has the most wins, but he just coached by far the most games. He also has the most losses and is 11th out of 24 in winning percentage all-time at ND, behind all 5 of ND’s national championship coaches (Rockne, Leahy, Ara, Devine, Holtz) and 5 others (including Freeman).
What?! I thought I saw that LSU fans were saying Freeman isn't worthy of being rated a top 10.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/31/25 at 10:52 am to TrueLefty
Freeman is definitely top 10
My problem with these rankings is they seem to rank based more on the program than the coach. There are not 50+ coaches people would rather hire over Lea
If you dropped Kalen DeBoer into historical bottom feeders who had a nice season last year (think Vandy, Indiana, Illinois), does anyone really think he would have the same level of success? I don’t think so.
Going 9-4 with the #1 talent composite should have you ranked outside the top 15. All we know is that CKD won a bunch of games in a weak conference and a Heisman caliber QB, 6th year senior OL and multiple NFL WRs. He didn’t develop any of those guys either outside of Penix.
My problem with these rankings is they seem to rank based more on the program than the coach. There are not 50+ coaches people would rather hire over Lea
If you dropped Kalen DeBoer into historical bottom feeders who had a nice season last year (think Vandy, Indiana, Illinois), does anyone really think he would have the same level of success? I don’t think so.
Going 9-4 with the #1 talent composite should have you ranked outside the top 15. All we know is that CKD won a bunch of games in a weak conference and a Heisman caliber QB, 6th year senior OL and multiple NFL WRs. He didn’t develop any of those guys either outside of Penix.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:38 am to Bama Bird
Yea, Mullen is a damn good coach.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:20 pm to John Milner
The Sporting News is still afloat? Who knew?
There were some real head scratchers on that list.
There were some real head scratchers on that list.
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:49 pm to Jack Daniel
Out of all the weird things in this list, this is a weird one to fixate on. Hugh sucks until he proves he doesn’t.
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