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Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:23 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:23 pm to DawgsLife
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Maybe. Maybe not.
Maybe? quote:Thanks to the receivers and yards after the catch
He threw for 300 yards
quote:and fumbled. He cause 3 turnovers, two resulted in TD's, Two resulted in UT starting near midfield
but he also threw 2 INT.'s
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I would be hard pressed to hang the loss on Stidham alone, though.
Again actually watch the game...He was awful and made some really bad decisions that cost the game. A game manager QB would have won that game
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:25 pm
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Except it doesn't. The defense we put on the field in Starkville wasn't close the the one we put on the field in New Orleans vs Clemson or Atlanta vs UGA. Different players all over the front and healthy guys.
How did Bama D get in that shape ? If you think AUs schedule to UGAs schedule in 2017
is apples to apples, you lose all credibility.
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Who knows? I know they clocked State that year. They won in South Bend. They beat Oklahoma. They hammered Auburn the 2nd round.
After playing Samford. They beat ND by one point and played a Defenseless OU team and got hammered by Auburn in round one. Round 2 would never have happened. The effects of playing a schedule like AU did in 2017 are cumulative, as we saw with AU at the end of the year.
Bottom line: If UGA played in the West, Kirby (4-5) would have zero SECW titles and zero Playoff appearances. He would have maybe two 10 win seasons (with a bowl win), but nothing like the hype you are giving him.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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- Tre Mason is in the CFL (2013)
You said since 2013. That means after 2013
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- Jovon Robinson is not in the NFL (2015)
Was cut for discipline issues
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- Kam Pettway is a high school coach (2016, 2017)
You mean our 3* FB that had to retire due to health issues? If not for that, he would be on an NFL roster
Now tell me about Trent Richardson.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Ole Miss and Arkansas stink.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:29 pm to Irons Puppet
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How did Bama D get in that shape ?
Well we lost 3 guys the opening week against FSU, so that was the main reason, and that doesn't have much of anything to do with a SEC West schedule.
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Bottom line: If UGA played in the West, Kirby (4-5) would have zero SECW titles and zero Playoff appearances. He would have maybe two 10 win seasons (with a bowl win), but nothing like the hype you are giving him.
That's your opinion. It's also odd to see you pumping up these teams you usually use as examples of how overrated the SEC is and now tout them as example of how difficult the SEC West is.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:33 pm to Cocotheape
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Guarantano was on fire that day, Stidham was garbage, rest of the team wasn’t good enough to make up for it. It happens, SEC teams lose to ULM and Troy, stood to reason eventually someone would go down to Tennessee as well.
I just went and watched the highlights. I see what you guys mean. Stidham was pretty bad. The Oline didn't block and your secondary didn't cover.
Like you said, it happens to everybody sooner or later.
Tennessee was hungry, and it looked like Auburn took them lightly. Georgia Southern got Florida and almost got us a few years ago.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:33 pm to jvilletiger25
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Now tell me about Trent Richardson.
Do you not seehow absurd it is that you could only find 1 running back in a decade plus that didn't have at least a solid season over 3-4 year careers?
Trent Richardson. That's it. The 2nd worst one, Eddie Lacy, had two 1,000 yard seasons and played for 5 years.
So in 10 years every single one of our draft eligible RBs has been drafted and basically 1 was a wash out total dud.
- Mark Ingram (8 seasons, 6,007 yards)
- Trent Richardson (bust)
- Eddie Lacy (5 seasons, 3,614 yards)
- TJ Yeldon (4 seasons, 1,872 yards)
- Derek Henry (3 seasons, 2,293 yards)
- Kenyan Drake (3 seasons, 1,358 yards)
- Scarbrough (1 season)
- D. Harris (R)
- J. Jacobs (R)
That's every NFL eligible RB we've had get 50 carries in a season since 2009. Everyone except Trent is still playing or had a 5 year, 3K yard career. Only maybe Georgia can match that nationally.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Well we lost 3 guys the opening week against FSU, so that was the main reason, and that doesn't have much of anything to do with a SEC West schedule.
Like I said it is cumulative with the SECW. Even with Bama's easy schedule that year, they still had to play a physical Arkansas, LSU, MSU and Auburn. That makes it hard to recover from injuries.
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That's your opinion. It's also odd to see you pumping up these teams you usually use as examples of how overrated the SEC is and now tout them as example of how difficult the SEC West is.
See above answer. Now throw in Clemson and LSU within two weeks of each other. The SEC is overrated, but that doesn't mean they are not physical. The teams are overrated because of the QB play in the league, but at least 3 SECW Defenses are capable of making average QB look bad.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:50 pm to Irons Puppet
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they still had to play a physical Arkansas
In 2017? You thought Arkansas was physical?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:57 pm to rockiee
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In 2017? You thought Arkansas was physical
Bert played a physical game on both sides of the ball, regardless how good they were. That was a problem he had while at UA, and he never tried to change
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:03 pm to Irons Puppet
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Bert played a physical game on both sides of the ball, regardless how good they were. That was a problem he had while at UA, and he never tried to change
They maybe played Bama hard for a quarter or so but had to start throwing the ball a ton in that game. They probably threw it 10-15 more times because they were so behind. On the defensive end it was even worst, there is no way you can argue that we played physical on the defensive end in 2017.
Auburn ran for almost 350 yards on the ground and scored 52. You think Arkansas was being physical? That was probably the most points you had scored on anyone that year. You are thinking about some of the early years under Bert. That was very different than anything in 2017.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:10 pm to rockiee
That is the style that they played, not necessarily well executed. Physical teams still get their asses whipped, but that style still has an affect on the other team .
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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NFL eligible
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draft eligible RBs
See.
I taught you to be more precise in your commenting.
You’re welcome.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:15 pm to Irons Puppet
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That is the style that they played, not necessarily well executed.
Agreed and that is why they were not physical. They tried but were not effective at it one bit so it didn't really matter.
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that style still has an affect on the other team
If it is run the right way that is correct but as on the field results show, it was poorly run. Once again, if you were talking about Arkansas in 2014, 15 or 16 you would be right but not in 2017.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:26 pm to rockiee
Ark didn’t have the numbers to win playing physical, but they kept that style. Good teams could attack those weak areas, but those 6-8 player still hit hard, blocked hard and ran hard. Ask and player, which teams required more time in whirlpools, and I bet their answers do not match better records in the league. I know AU coaches always were concerned about injuries after playing MSU and Ark, sometimes back to back.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:40 pm to Irons Puppet
As already said, you are right for Bert's middle three years but that does not apply in his last year. We could at one point wear teams down on both sides but we couldn't do that in 2017 because we really weren't physical. Most teams we played that year scored more points in the 2nd half than the 1st.
Trust me, I had to bare through it all. There was nothing physical about our play on defense in 2017, not much on offense either but you can make a better point there.
Trust me, I had to bare through it all. There was nothing physical about our play on defense in 2017, not much on offense either but you can make a better point there.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:48 pm to rockiee
You were bad against teams that had outside speed and you couldn’t match a lot of the quickness. It was like that every year. But the OL still hit hard within the LOS and the run game was perpendicular to the LOS. The D wanted to play toward their size, but that didn’t work. You can be physical and have a poor record.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:58 pm to Irons Puppet
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You were bad against teams that had outside speed and you couldn’t match a lot of the quickness. It was like that every year.
Yes and it got even worse in 2017. We were not physical and had no speed. We got bigger but not at the cost of becoming more physical. We lost speed which in turn made it more difficult to be physical even when we wanted to
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But the OL still hit hard within the LOS and the run game was perpendicular to the LOS.
Once again you are thinking more of the earlier years. Our OLine became very weak after Pittman left. We started throwing the ball more and more each year. Enos did a good job of creating some unpredictability due to playcalling but we still were a very different team that year.
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You can be physical and have a poor record.
Sure but that wasn't the case for Arkansas in 2017. We were 6-6 in 2014 but very physical. I don't blame you because alot of people believe in the "Bert wanted to always out physical you but you can't do that at Arkansas because of the talent". This was true for awhile but we got further away from that with each year. We were bottom half of the country in rushing attempts in 2017.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 5:02 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:SkyKing!...Read the thread title!
What Bammers like you fail to answer is how does AU even beat bama once, much less one out of every three games, with the talent differential between the two programs.
No where does it mention ANYTHING about the Alabama/Auburn series record!
You guys are so sensitive about the Bama superiority that you try to make an argument related to it when it's not even mentioned! 
Posted on 5/7/19 at 5:06 pm to Irons Puppet
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Three in 9 years. Or every third season. Amazing considering Sabans run.
It is. Gumps and even Barners dont give Gus the credit he is due. No one has had more success in the SEC vs Bama under Saban than aub.
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