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re: Spinoff Thread: AU’s last 12 Composite 5 Star commits

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Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:03 pm to
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There you go again. You can not have it both ways. If you call Gus a 4 loss a year coach

Did I?

Can you find the post where I talked about Gus being a 4 loss a year coach? I will wait.

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You can't list Kirby's accomplishments 2 out of 3 years playing in the East. Kirby is a three plus loses a year coach right now.

We were talking about current program trajectories... Not sure what 2013 has relevance on the trajectory of Auburn today... Perhaps you can enlighten me.

And using losses to compare programs only really works when the two teams have played an equal number of games.

Over the past three years in the regular season:
Smart is 15-3 against the East... 83.3%
Smart is 3-3 against the West... 50%

Smart is 1-2 against West teams outside of the regular season.

Gus is 12-6 against the West... 66.6%
Gus is 3-3 against the East... 50%

Gus is 0-1 against East teams outside of the regular season.


Smart is 3-1 against Gus head to head in that time period...


As has been said, UGA was correct to fire Richt, is in a better place now than they were in 2015. No amount of crying about how things used to be is going to change that. Have fun this season.


ETA: Just saw this one
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Wow, 2 Mark Richt. Science must be hard for you.


Is the word circa where you got tripped up or the 2 different spans of time being compared? I can slow it down for you if I need to.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:03 pm to
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That would look similar to what Kirby has done. Do you think Kirby could have done it in the West ?


Well it all comes down to could they have beaten Alabama, right?

2013 is kind of hard to assess since he didn't have a team.

2017, they lost to us on the last play of the game in OT at a neutral site. So could they have beaten us in Athens? It's certainly possible.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Now take 2013 away from Gus....his first only good year. You can count 2017 as a good year, but he still had 4 losses.


While playing in the West. Which means playing LSU, A&M, Bama along with UGA every year. MSU has been decent of late. We say UF when SECE Championships while having zero Offense. UT has sucked the last decade and USCe, UK and Vandy are spartic.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:06 pm to
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UT has sucked the last decade


And Auburn lost to Tennessee at home last year. Tennessee went 1-6 in their other SEC games, 1-5 vs the East.

Tennessee went 0-4 away from home other than Auburn, losing by an average score of 36-16 (26 to WVU, 26 to UGA, 25 to Vandy). They beat Auburn 30-24.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:11 pm to
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And Auburn lost to Tennessee at home last year.


Thanks Stidham...
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:11 pm to
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While playing in the West. Which means playing LSU, A&M, Bama along with UGA every year. MSU has been decent of late. We say UF when SECE Championships while having zero Offense. UT has sucked the last decade and USCe, UK and Vandy are spartic.




Any old excuse will do, I guess. We'll just ignore that we beat Auburn in the SECCG and a #2 ranked Oklahoma team...but sure. We would have struggled in the West.

We beat #24, #17, one #2 and another #2 team in the country, and got beaten in OT by the National Champions. We would have done alright.

As for trajectory? Do you honestly believe Auburn is on the upswing and Georgia is headed downward?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:13 pm to
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And Auburn lost to Tennessee at home last year.




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Thanks Stidham...


Dude. Your defense gave up 30 points against Tennessee. I don't think Stidham was your biggest problem.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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25901 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:20 pm to
I'll ask you, because UGA fans accept you as their spokesman. What would Kirby's record be like if he played in the West with AU schedule and Auburn as his permanent East opponent ?
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:21 pm to
13 of those points came off Stidham turnovers (including a scoop and score).

He's not the only reason AU lost, but he was a big reason.

(Our secondary making Guantanamo look like Peyton Manning didn't help.)
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Dude. Your defense gave up 30 points against Tennessee. I don't think Stidham was your biggest problem.



It's true. Tennessee scored more on Auburn than they did any team not named East Tennessee State...

That includes:
Vandy
UTEP
and Charlotte
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:25 pm to
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because UGA fans accept you as their spokesman.


LOL

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What would Kirby's record be like if he played in the West with AU schedule and Auburn as his permanent East opponent ?


He probably loses 1-2 of the UA/LSU/A&M games I guess depending on location. Who else in the West would they lose to? They hammered State in 2017. Ole Miss and Arkansas stink.

So 9-3 to 11-1, generally, I'd say. Probably an average of 1 additional loss a year in general.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:25 pm to
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RBs on NFL rosters (or free agents who will sign)

Auburn
Corey Grant
Kerryon Johnson
Cameron Artis-Payne
Peyton Barber

Alabama
Bo Scarbrough
Derek Henry
Kenyan Drake
Damien Harris
Josh Jacobs
Mark Ingram
TJ Yeldon



So Bama has only 3 more RBs, and they have signed twice as many 5* RBs as Auburn has in that time period? Seems like someone else can't develop players...
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:26 pm to
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13 of those points came off Stidham turnovers (including a scoop and score).

He's not the only reason AU lost, but he was a big reason.

(Our secondary making Guantanamo look like Peyton Manning didn't help.)




I really believe AU had given up on the season at that point. They played the same way against A&M, but Jimbo fricked that game away.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:29 pm to
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So Bama has only 3 more RBs, and they have signed twice as many 5* RBs as Auburn has in that time period? Seems like someone else can't develop players...


Every Alabama running back that has had at least 50 carries in a season since 2013 is in the NFL.

100% of contributing Alabama running backs since 2013 are in the NFL. How exactly do you develop more than 100%?
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:30 pm to
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He probably loses 1-2 of the UA/LSU/A&M games I guess depending on location. Who else in the West would they lose to? They hammered State in 2017. Ole Miss and Arkansas stink.

So 9-3 to 11-1, generally, I'd say. Probably an average of 1 additional loss a year in general.


What about the SECC or Playoff appearances ?
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:30 pm to
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100% of contributing Alabama running backs since 2013 are in the NFL.

That’s not true.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:32 pm to
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What about the SECC or Playoff appearances ?


Slightly more difficult road but still probably have at least 1 of each right now
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:32 pm to
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How exactly do you develop more than 100%?


only losers don't give 110%
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:35 pm to
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Slightly more difficult road but still probably have at least 1 of each right now




What year ? Last year based on on the field performance they would have had two loses and finished 2nd in the SECW.

In 2017 the same with two loses and Bama only have one.

Like I said.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:35 pm to
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That’s not true.


ORLY

PROVE ME WRONG

2013 - Yeldon, Drake, Henry
2014 - Yeldon, Henry
2015 - Henry, Drake
2016 - Harris, Scarbrough, Jacobs
2017 - Harris, Scarbrough, Jacobs
2018 - Harris, Jacobs
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