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re: Spinoff from other thread, SEC schools listed in order they opened

Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:18 pm to
I’m not deducting the 60 years you were “Texas University”

So I can’t punish Tennessee either
Posted by Monsusta
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:19 pm to
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Location never changed?

So if you take an old Taco Bell and convert it to a MCDonald do you still say you are eating Taco Bell with a Big Mac in your hands?

NO!

University of Tennessee did not exist before 1879. Facts!
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:20 pm to
I financially incentivized all my kids to not piss away my money in college in the same way I did, it’s worked so far on all but one, my oldest
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:21 pm to
Just stop, don’t UTrans up a decent discussion
Posted by Monsusta
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:24 pm to
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Just stop, don’t UTrans up a decent discussion

Sure. Go ahead and spread disinformation and incorrect facts.

Posted by morganwadefan
TN
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:07 pm to
Mississippi State’s first students stepped on campus in 1880. In 1926, it was accredited.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:11 pm to
I have corrected it now
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:58 pm to
Poor analogy. So even though I started my undergraduate studies at Georgia College and they changed the name to Georgia College and State University and it was Georgia Woman’s College at one point, is it still not the same university?
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 4:07 pm to
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Georgia was established in 1785 so I don't have to go far down your list to dismiss it.


Similarly, we were founded in 1801 - and use that number on logos etc - but I don’t think we officially opened until 1805.
Posted by NMAS
Houston
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:13 pm to
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Also I’m not giving credit for other schools that “spun off” from completely other institutions


Then you need to remove aggy since they were clearly established as part of (the real) UT
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:04 pm to
Absolutely true. UK and Lexington Theological Seminary were both once part of Transylvania University. First college west of the Allegheny mountains established in 1780 in Kentucky County, Virginia. Charter signed by Thomas Jefferson.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:55 pm to
The UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS system was signed into law in 1876, aggy was simply the first to open (tiny school, smaller than most high schools today) as simply one of the 9 original schools in the charter.

You see, a little something called the industrial revolution happened meaning machines were taking the place of jobs once done by nearly 100% manual labor, yet farming families were still breeding like rabbits..some producing 10+ kids each, many of them boys who became delinquent since they didn't have farm work to occupy 100% of their time as it had in the past. aggy couldn't open soon enough as a place to not only keep them off the streets, but also try to teach them a little military discipline. Oh, did I mention A&M is just one of the schools in the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS system? The flagship in Austin didn't open till later which is true, but the leadership wanted to learn from aggy mistakes and get it right. /Fin
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:14 pm to
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Your cow college opened in 1883
Your diploma mill was established to be a BRANCH of the school you weren’t smart enough to attend, Sarge
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:25 pm to
Tennessee didn't create their state college.

There was no University of Tennessee until 1869.

The school that eventually became UT was a small private school called Blount College. Not a University. A college. It was a religious school that came about from seminary courses taught from the home of Reverend Sam Cook.

It became state funded in 1807 and was renamed East Tennessee College (still not a university). Sam Cook passed away a few years later and the school closed down until 1820.

It didn't become a University until 1840.

It didn't become the official University for the state of Tennessee until 1869.

UGA on the other hand was chartered as the University of Georgia in 1785 and opened its doors as a full university in 1801. UGA's campus and curriculum was largely based on Yale, as the first two presidents of UGA were former Yale students/professors. This is also why UGA's mascot is the Bulldog (just as Yale's is).

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:33 pm to
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Opened is really the only real measurement


Many universities were conceptually planned long before they were actually a university


This isn't true.

The reality is almost every University promotes their charter date as when the school began.

There's been debate between UGA and UNC about which school was the oldest public university. UNC claims they were first because they held classes first.

But if you look at UNC logos and merchandise, you see something like this.



1789 is UNC's charter date, not the date they had classes (which was in 1795.

If that was the date that mattered, that would be the date that would be advertised. If the year it opened is what actually mattered as they claim... why do they claim the year they were chartered?





This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:43 pm to
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Poor analogy. So even though I started my undergraduate studies at Georgia College and they changed the name to Georgia College and State University and it was Georgia Woman’s College at one point, is it still not the same university?


Blount College (which after a long period of time eventually became the University of Tennessee) closed down for over a decade after the death of their president Samuel Cook until 1820.

It didn't become a University until 1840.

It didn't become the University of Tennessee until 1869.

So no, a graduate of Blount Seminary College who attended classes in the home of Reverend Samuel Cook with 5-10 other students in 1794 did not really attend the same University as a graduate of the University of Tennessee in 1894.

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:56 pm to
Based on our age we average a natty every 18.7 years. I think only Bama is better
Posted by Top5Vols
Member since Oct 2022
87 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 8:32 am to
Who gives a hoot? My dog bigger than yours.
Posted by BrandoCo
Member since Sep 2015
384 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:11 am to
All you have to do is show your dildo and gay/lesbian card to get into Texas University these days. All the information that was “corrected” information given about when your university was started is a load of lies and bullshite…….everybody in this conference is going to hate you f’n idiots and it’s not going to be because your winning. A load of realism and humbleness is coming your way.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:57 am to
Who cares? Which University started playing football first?
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