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re: South Carolina and Mizzo in the sec
Posted on 1/30/19 at 6:54 pm to Icoachfb
Posted on 1/30/19 at 6:54 pm to Icoachfb
They should've stayed for basketball but going independent in football was definitely the right move. It's debatable if the ACC was even a power conference until the 90s and there used to be a ton of big time independent programs back then.
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:11 pm to Korin
Let’s be honest most schools in the ACC are not very committed to football. Some of the schools are located in more pro towns. Boston College and Pittsburgh. Saw a article a few years ago about how much money each school spent on football other than Clemson, FSU and at the the time VT it was pretty much laughable. Was surprised how little Miami spent.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:42 pm to Icoachfb
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Most of you are probably too young or even know and I as only a kid when it happened but Carolina should have never left the ACC.
As a kid you you should keep quiet then for your lack of insight.
I am old enough to remember a 12 member SEC that included Tulane and GT. I can say I understand Tulane leaving like Chicago got better leaving the B1G. Maroons were an early beast in the B1G but wanted to focus on academics and they make way more $$$$ in research than they ever could have made in sports. Buckets ohs the Maroons a debt as their departure left a hole for OSU to step into. Tulane took a similar approach in the SEC.
Bumbles were a different story and Dodds losing his mind to Bryant was short sighted at best. Even Dodds later admitted as much but that was the last time they let a coach or AD have control of what would become P5 membership decisions.
As for the ACC they let UNC and Dook run the show when the real heart of Tobacco Road started when Case left IU to coach NCST. He brought basketball to the area and I think NCST had 2 NCAA's before UNC and certainly before Dook. UNC was an early cheater but got the favor of the NCAA and NCST eventually paid the price. Best thing the Cocks ever did was get away from that train wreck just like TAMU and MU escaped the tyranny of Utx.
Here is the Taters with a real place at the national college football table and they are still sitting at the kiddie table in the ACC. Must chap the Taters arse to know they are trapped now. SEC will not add a 2nd school in SC and Cocks already claimed that Golden Ticket in the 90's.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:44 pm to Korin
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It's debatable if the ACC was even a power conference until the 90s
They were not, they just lucked out being so bad they were the only contract ESPN could get when they were starting up. Without ESPN the ACC would have been below the Big East in the old P6.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:47 pm to zed44
We kind of have palmetto trees. They die easy but we have them.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:58 pm to Cheese Grits
I am not happy about being in the ACC. I was at the Clemson UNC football game the last time the Tar Holes won. The freakin commissioner, a former Tar Hole QB, was running around giving high fives to the the UNC coaches and players. Looked like a cheerleader. I always thought a commissioner was suppose to be neutral when it came to conference teams.
Quick I knew Tulane was a one time member but what year did Tulane leave?
Quick I knew Tulane was a one time member but what year did Tulane leave?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:04 pm to Cheese Grits
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Here is the Taters with a real place at the national college football table and they are still sitting at the kiddie table in the ACC. Must chap the Taters arse to know they are trapped now.
Huh?
It's incredible how you continue to base all of your thoughts off of what happened in the '60s.
Clemson is kicking off the ACC Network with a home game next year, for example.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:05 pm to Icoachfb
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Quick I knew Tulane was a one time member but what year did Tulane leave?
1965
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:09 pm to IStillMissDanny
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It's incredible how you continue to base all of your thoughts off of what happened in the '60s.
Not really, in the last year Rat Face was front and center of ACC media exposure during football season. Denial of the reality of your overlords in Durham and Chapel Hill must be tough.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:26 pm to Cheese Grits
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Here is the Taters with a real place at the national college football table and they are still sitting at the kiddie table in the ACC.
Winning 2 of the last three NCs in football has elevated Clemson’s name brand beyond the control of any ACC sub culture. Like Neo we’ve finally escaped the Tabacco Road Matrix and left the ACC basketball schools in our wake.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:03 pm to ClemsonRules
Your delusion is great if you really believe that. You are not a basketball school is a conference full of basketball schools. Also, you do not play well in sports the ACC also cares about like lacrosse.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:29 pm to Cheese Grits
And yet the move to the SEC by Uof5C has yielded unfathomable results. 0 conference titles! Just remember your last conference championship was in 1969 and you will never accomplish this in the SEC. Hate to break that to you baby boy.
University of Second Choice ultimately lives up to its reputation.
You can go to bed now. Thanks
University of Second Choice ultimately lives up to its reputation.
You can go to bed now. Thanks
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:37 pm to Cheese Grits
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They were not, they just lucked out being so bad they were the only contract ESPN could get when they were starting up. Without ESPN the ACC would have been below the Big East in the old P6.
Yeah, the ACC champ was playing in the Citrus and Gator Bowls before FSU joined. They owe a LOT to the Noles.
Hell, the ACC champ played in something called the Cherry Bowl in the mid 80s.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:55 pm to Korin
Kind of what you get when your commissioner cares more about UNC winning a women’s soccer national championship than Clemson winning a football national championship.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:57 pm to boulwarejockstrap
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You can go to bed now. Thanks
Not really, at my age you have to wake up and piss all night.
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0 conference titles!
Typical ACC thinking that conference titles matter
Before going the SEC the Cocks had 0 NCAA trophies
Now they have 4, 2 CWS for the men and 2 Natty's for the women
In CFB they were 0-8 in bowl games prior to SEC membership. Since joining they are 9-6 in 15 games. Congrats on the Taters current success but if your in state rival can fill 80K seats and is in the SEC it may only be a matter of time before they get a CFB natty. Keep whistling past the graveyard but your insecurity is obvious as to who owns the state in the future. The U, the Gators, and the Free Shoe U folks all had their moment in the sun but as of today, none have been able to sustain it.
You are no Alabama yet and going forward you will have a target on your back you did not have in the past.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:58 pm to Cheese Grits
Well Clemson don’t play lacrosse, don’t wrestle but hey we are gearing up for our annual run to try and make the NIT
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:17 pm to Cheese Grits
When is Villanova going to get a FBS natty? Oh that’s right they moved down in like 1984.
Carolina has had some good teams of late and has a very loyal fan base but winning a national championship? Willing to bet you they don’t in my lifetime.
Carolina has had some good teams of late and has a very loyal fan base but winning a national championship? Willing to bet you they don’t in my lifetime.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:17 pm to ClemsonRules
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Winning 2 of the last three NCs in football has elevated Clemson’s name brand beyond the control of any ACC sub culture.
Do you not understand basic economics?
TV revenue is where the money has come from in the past decade and as an equal revenue sharing conference (well except UNC's side deal for basketball) your football $$$$ get split among a lot of basketball schools while NCAA basketball credits do not get split so equally. Taters are carrying the football load but getting that money split among many schools who do not carry their football load. Since the Taters do not earn those NCAA MBB and WBB credit wins the other ACC schools do not have to share as much with you in basketball.
Is any of this sinking in?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:36 pm to Icoachfb
How old are you?
If you are under 30 that may be a reasonable bet if you have an average lifespan around 75. It may happen in a decade and it may happen in a half century but odds are good it will happen especially with the SEC having the most schools to win a natty as a percentage of their total membership. Even the Rebs and Cats have Natties and the same can not be said for the habitual bottom feeders of the ACC.
You are aware they have an FCS Natty in football in 2009.
In addition they have 21 NCAA championships in 6 different sports including 3 NCAA MCBB banners in 85, 16, and 18. Pretty sure the Taters never sniffed even a Final Four in either MCBB or WCBB. They also field 24 NCAA teams to Taters 19.
Outside of sports they have about 1/3 of the student population but still have a bigger endowment than the Taters.
When you say dumb stuff on a public board it just shows the value (or lack) of a degree from Taterland.
If you are under 30 that may be a reasonable bet if you have an average lifespan around 75. It may happen in a decade and it may happen in a half century but odds are good it will happen especially with the SEC having the most schools to win a natty as a percentage of their total membership. Even the Rebs and Cats have Natties and the same can not be said for the habitual bottom feeders of the ACC.
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When is Villanova going to get a FBS natty?
You are aware they have an FCS Natty in football in 2009.
In addition they have 21 NCAA championships in 6 different sports including 3 NCAA MCBB banners in 85, 16, and 18. Pretty sure the Taters never sniffed even a Final Four in either MCBB or WCBB. They also field 24 NCAA teams to Taters 19.
Outside of sports they have about 1/3 of the student population but still have a bigger endowment than the Taters.
When you say dumb stuff on a public board it just shows the value (or lack) of a degree from Taterland.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:36 pm to Cheese Grits
Sure do. Taught basic economics for 29 years and you are correct in what you are saying. I am saying that they only crown one national champ a year and most schools don’t win one. Odds are not in their or most schools favor for that matter. Just because you have money don’t mean you will win a national championship. Texas A&M has more money than just about anyone and they haven’t won one since what 1930 something. Money helps but this is not MLB where the Yankees and Red Sox can just outbid you.
I am not trashing them just playing the odds. Most schools don’t win national championships.
Are you willing to take my bet?
I am not trashing them just playing the odds. Most schools don’t win national championships.
Are you willing to take my bet?
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