re: South Carolina and Mizzo in the sec

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I am saying that they only crown one national champ a year and most schools don’t win one.

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Fair enough but probing deeper you have to look at the P5's ability to win

ACC = FSU and CU
B12 = OU and maybe Utx
B1G = OSU
PAC = USC

That leaves the SEC with "The Six" (which has existed since the SEC founded in the 30's) and the Six being ever changing as GT was a Six member back in their SEC days and even Vanderbilt and Sewanee had their moments early on. You may be not be aware Vanderbilt football had around a dozen conference championships but that and a dollar might get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds. Bigger point is the SEC is fluid in football and even has Alabama has down years when their Six membership is void in a particular season. That means another SEC school elevates for that year which does not happen in the ACC.

Based on probability most any SEC football school can have an exceptional year and being as strong as they are that should be enough to get them into a 4 team CFP that should have at least 1 SEC school and possibly two in a given year. While agree that money does not win championships (Utx is a glaring example and UVA much less so) it does buy coaches and coaching staffs. In addition Cocks are sitting in the most fertile conference for NFL potential and SC is a state (and surrounding states) with the talent to win a Natty and the odds skew in the Cocks favor.

That being said most P5's might be a 1:50 but Cocks may be as low as 1:20 and that is not too bad given a generation or two event horizon.

Excuse me. Getting late and hit wrong button.

Show me citation on where Carolina has 1/3 of Clemson’s enrollment. Is that what you are saying?

You are correct about endowment and number of sports. You must not be from the Palmetto State so let me explain this. Clemson is a smaller land grant school very similar to Mississippi State maybe closer to Auburn.Carolina has always had more money to spend than Clemson and yet the series is pretty lopsided as far as football. Carolina spreads the wealth more between thier sports. The city of Clemson depends on Clemson football success to stay in the black.

Clemson has beat Carolina three years running in basketball and has won the three game series in baseball three years running. Don’t know don’t care about soccer. Carolina has a much better teams in women’s sports. Clemson don’t even play softball. Starting in 2020.

I am not saying your numbers are way off and not trashing Carolina, it’s a good school they have a really strong fan base. They sold thier stadium out when they were in a 1-21 skid. I am just saying odds are not in their favor of winning a national championship in football and that just because you play great teams you are going to be great.

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Take it you are not willing to bet

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Big difference if you are say 60 vs 30. Probability favors me if you are younger, but not if older like me as you have fewer shopping days till Christmas (taking the dirt nap and all)

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So you are saying because you are in the SEC you probably will one day win a national championship? Wow then Clemson should win one in basketball because they play Duke and North Carolina every year. Lol.

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Not the same game (from a probability standpoint). I am saying SEC football is more fluid than ACC basketball. SEC football offers up 6 of 12 or possibly 7 or 14 (50%) in a given year while ACC basketball s more like B1G football in you have 2 + maybe a floater that changes in a given year. Lets say 3 in a given year out of 15 basketball programs = 3 of 15 or 1 in 5 (20%). 50% has greater probability of occurring than 20% in a given year and multiplied out over a longer window (say 50 years vs just a decade) gives an SEC football team a higher probability of claiming a Natty than an ACC basketball team.

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glad to send you my curriculum vitae

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Not really fair as I am probably much older and school was easier then as less to learn. :) If it helps I did not attend Villanova but knew Rollie before he passed and some dear family friends had deep ties to the Wildcats.

You had attacked Nova's football prowess.

My post was responding to that and you assumed it was a Columbia comparison.