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re: Sources: Auburn’s Varez Ward at center of federal point-shaving probe
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:15 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:15 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
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Bitch
Is what we made out of you. Go watch the highlights, bitch.
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Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:18 pm to augrad00
The rumor is that it was not some Frat Boy, but some pressure from folks in Montgomery. It was local betting...
Think of the longest yard.
Yes they wanted Alabama to win and cover. The refs from that game may also be looked at..
Think of the longest yard.
Yes they wanted Alabama to win and cover. The refs from that game may also be looked at..
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:35 pm to mgmbamafan
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The refs from that game may also be looked at.
I'd definitely look at them, too. The officiating in the first half was some of the worst I have ever seen.
The first tech on Gabriel for hanging on the rim was justifiable, but the second one on Denson was ridiculous. There were a host of other calls on Auburn that were not even close to fouls. It was pretty much one ref who was making the bad calls. That old, white-haired ref is the one I'm talking about, but I don't know him by name.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:41 pm to mgmbamafan
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The rumor is that it was not some Frat Boy, but some pressure from folks in Montgomery. It was local betting...
Think of the longest yard.
Yes they wanted Alabama to win and cover. The refs from that game may also be looked at..
Makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:46 pm to trackem
quote:They are pretty consistent if you ask me. Tough to see much variation from game to game that would indicate a fix on a particular game.
I'd definitely look at them, too.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:46 pm to WDE24
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I doubt if he did what is alledged he did that he did it to get rich. I doubt he got no more than 6 figures if that for it.
No way he was getting rich. I suspect 1 of 2 things happened:
1) some local bookmaker whom he knows tossed the idea out while they were hanging out (possibly high and drunk) and Varez saw a chance to make a few quick bucks; or
2) Varez had a gambling debt or some other debt he couldn't cover with a local thug and this was a way to escape it.
Both logical possibilities, but didn't he also try to recruit teammates into the scheme? How would that figure in to these scenarios? Isn't that how the staff found out...a teammate came forward and told them? Any teammates who got involved would also have gotten paid.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
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a teammate came forward and told them? Any teammates who got involved would also have gotten paid.
Denson was probable the player that told the coaches... He was suspended, took a lie detector test and sat out one game...
As always there is more to this story...
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:52 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Both logical possibilities, but didn't he also try to recruit teammates into the scheme? How would that figure in to these scenarios? Isn't that how the staff found out...a teammate came forward and told them? Any teammates who got involved would also have gotten paid.
just pure speculation, but after the Arkansas Game where Ward faked an injury, Auburn covered the spread (easily)... I think, at that point, he realized that points shaving was gonna be harder than he anticipated and tried to recruit a teammate -- chris denson -- in the scheme.
Denson ratted him out, was cleared of any wrong-doing, and was put back on the team.
Just a possible scenario.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:53 pm to allin2010
quote:Trying to guess without much information, Denson was approached by the same guy or by Varez and maybe even considered it or agreed to it, before realizing it was a bad idea and going to a coach to report it.
Denson was probable the player that told the coaches... He was suspended, took a lie detector test and sat out one game...
As always there is more to this story...
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:53 pm to allin2010
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Denson was probable the player that told the coaches... He was suspended, took a lie detector test and sat out one game...
As always there is more to this story...
Gotta be. Coach Barbee wouldn't have made the remark of him making bad choices had he come just come forward to blow the whistle on his dipshit teamate. Denson even tweeted that he would never make the same mistake again. Whatever that references.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:56 pm to WDE24
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Trying to guess without much information, Denson was approached by the same guy or by Varez and maybe even considered it or agreed to it, before realizing it was a bad idea and going to a coach to report it.
or sat on the information for a few days before telling anyone... NO WAY denson was actually involved with the on-court scheme.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:56 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
wonder who they'll be looking at from his cell phone and what he offered to them in help. I'm sure they want bigger fish, if there are any out there.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:57 pm to lowspark12
And for all those thinking big-time conspiracy plains burning, etc....
AU was 12-4 ATS in SEC games this season....
AU was 12-4 ATS in SEC games this season....
Posted on 3/9/12 at 12:58 pm to lowspark12
quote:Possibly.
or sat on the information for a few days before telling anyone.
quote:Yeah, if he actually followed through with anything he would never have played again either.
NO WAY denson was actually involved with the on-court scheme.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:00 pm to lowspark12
He allegedly took a fall in one they didn't cover in. How many they did cover in and how many he tried to shave can't be determined by that. I'm not saying it's a big conspiracy by any means, as on first look, it appears to be solely him. Who the other(s) may be, at this point, is pure speculation. We won't know that for some time, I'd think.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:00 pm to allin2010
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As always there is more to this story...
Smoke...fire...whatnot. Presser las cuatro.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:06 pm to Alahunter
quote:Based on the info out there, this seems like it was caught early on and snuffed out pretty quickly, but maybe not. The info likely wouldn't be out there yet if the FBI didn't already know the scope of what they were investigating.
We won't know that for some time, I'd think.
Could always blow up into something bigger, but it looks like a relatively small time bust with just one involved player at the moment. Others would be suspended if there was any information of their involvement.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:09 pm to NBamaAlum
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Smoke...fire...whatnot.
Presser an vier.
or
Plus urgent à quatre.
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:11 pm to NBamaAlum
This is so cool, it will divert the media attention south ! I love Auburn..Tiger Eagle War Damn !
Posted on 3/9/12 at 1:12 pm to AUnite
I threw off an eight roper yesterday when this was first posted, but now it is just meh.
UNLESS THE CELL PHONE RECORDS CONNECT MILTY AND RAYNE TO TROOPAH AND THE SMOCK AND CAMS DAD JERGENS GALORE FAPPITITY FAP FAP.
UNLESS THE CELL PHONE RECORDS CONNECT MILTY AND RAYNE TO TROOPAH AND THE SMOCK AND CAMS DAD JERGENS GALORE FAPPITITY FAP FAP.
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