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re: Sort of SEC related with Rhule as a coaching candidate. Check out Nebraska's recruits

Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:54 am to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:54 am to
Unless nebraska comes up with a comprehensive plan akin to what they did under Osborne, they won't return to prominence.
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
770 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:22 am to
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We all remember when Nebraska was a power. Now it has the 95th ranked recruiting class. Behind schools such as Ohio, Eastern Michigan and Tulsa.

Have the Cornhuskers given up?


Nebraska’s fade started with the elimination of partial qualifiers in the Big 12 and accelerated upon their arrival in the Big Ten. To get in to the conference they agreed to junior membership, which left them with far smaller payouts than other schools.

Like many “blue bloods” they benefited from special rules and privileges. When those privileges were removed, they tanked.

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18506 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:36 am to
I am wondering if Rhule made a mistake by not taking the PSU HC job.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Member since Jul 2021
3373 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:39 am to
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To get in to the conference they agreed to junior membership, which left them with far smaller payouts than other schools.


^^ I did not realize this. Wow. If true, that made their move to the B10 an order of magnitude dumber.

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Like many “blue bloods” they benefited from special rules and privileges. When those privileges were removed, they tanked.


That's a funny way of saying 'institutionalized steroid program.'

I find it a little interesting that tRant seems to hold Osborne in high regard. The guy was a POS
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22499 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:40 am to
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And how underappreciated Bo Pelini was at Nebraska.

Bo Pelini:
2008 - 9-4
2009 - 10-4
2010 - 10-4
2011 - 9-4
2012 - 10-4
2013 - 9-3
2014 - 9-3

So Brian Kelly was underappreciated at LSU??
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
2395 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:55 am to
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I find it a little interesting that tRant seems to hold Osborne in high regard. The guy was a POS


He was a masssive peice of shite. Completely protected thugs and women beaters like Lawrence Phillips.

Much like the bootleggers son…
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1038 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:04 am to
The junior status was temporary. They’re now a full partner.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3395 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:19 am to
Rhule has made his nut off of how bad of a job Baylor was perceived to be.

In reality it was in the heart of Texas recruits and he hit gold at QB.

Hes an avg coach at best.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1495 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:34 am to
Nebraska was known as Steroid U for good reason. With the crackdown on that abuse along with limits on "walk ons" that caused them to tank and they have no way to recover their former glory.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3815 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:52 am to
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So Brian Kelly was underappreciated at LSU??


I don't really recall Pelini having such a negative effect on the Nebraska brand like Kelly.

Nebraska was also still ranked heading into bowl season the year Pelini was fired and not fielding historically bad offenses or defenses.

But I'll entertain you and say, sure Brian Kelly at LSU would have been underappreciated at LSU, IF LSU has 8 losing records in the next 10 seasons like Nebraska did after Pelini.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39283 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:56 am to
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Like many “blue bloods” they benefited from special rules and privileges. When those privileges were removed, they tanked.



I'd love to hear more about these special rules and privileges you think schools get for having the label blue blood.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23083 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:41 pm to
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And how underappreciated Bo Pelini was at Nebraska.

Bo Pelini:
2008 - 9-4
2009 - 10-4
2010 - 10-4
2011 - 9-4
2012 - 10-4
2013 - 9-3
2014 - 9-3


So Brian Kelly was underappreciated at LSU??
It's possible , but I doubt it.

I think you have to have an understanding of the recruits you are going to bring in, and build the team accordingly.

Kelly didn't seem to be building within LSU's talent pool. He had stabilized the chaos O left, but his teams seemed built around a model that just doesn't EXCEL with La athletes.
Kirby over at UGA isn't doing anything crazy, he's just got things synched to his talent base. It works.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39283 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Kirby over at UGA isn't doing anything crazy, he's just got things synched to his talent base. It works.


Huh? Kirby just copied the Alabama program and everything he learned from Saban.

That's not a knock on him, dozens of coaches have been hired hoping for the same things, and he's basically the only one whose been capable of pulling it off. Its why he's considered one of the best coaches today, if not the best.

But I don't think he is out there molding their system according to their talent base. He's picking the players that fit his scheme where ever he can find them.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18506 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:41 pm to
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They kill coaches carriers or always hire overhyped coaches . Scott Frost has to be regretting his choice to go to Nebraska over Florida. Getting talent to go to Nebraska has to be hard .

Or staying at UCF.
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
770 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:42 pm to
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I'd love to hear more about these special rules and privileges you think schools get for having the label blue blood.


Ask literally any program other than Texas if they believe UT had special privileges in the SWC and Big 12. The others went along with it, but those privileges existed.

Do you believe ND deserves their preseason and postseason rankings each year?

In the Big 8 and early Big 12, Nebraska had partial qualifiers, rampant dangerous steroid use, and a well-documented history of illegal payments to players.

Switzer’s cheating at OU is well documented and not debatable.

These schools got away with it because they had connections within conference and NCAA leadership. When other schools tried the same, they were heavily penalized.

I didn’t pay attention prior to Mizzou joining the SEC, so I’m unaware if these dynamics were present.



Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39283 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:46 pm to
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Ask literally any program other than Texas if they believe UT had special privileges in the SWC and Big 12. The others went along with it, but those privileges existed.

Do you believe ND deserves their preseason and postseason rankings each year?

In the Big 8 and early Big 12, Nebraska had partial qualifiers, rampant dangerous steroid use, and a well-documented history of illegal payments to players.

Switzer’s cheating at OU is well documented and not debatable.

These schools got away with it because they had connections within conference and NCAA leadership. When other schools tried the same, they were heavily penalized.

I didn’t pay attention prior to Mizzou joining the SEC, so I’m unaware if these dynamics were present.


Alabama is a blue blood and we use to call the NCAA the National Conspiracy against Alabama.

This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted by pubes
Brest, Franch
Member since Dec 2023
230 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:57 pm to
none of these guys were hitting the juice at all
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
770 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:29 pm to
The runaway slobber blows his cover. Lol
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101175 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:42 pm to
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There was a school outside Lincoln that won the state championship in Nebraska HS football that had 11 seniors sign with Division I schools this year. 0 signed with Nebraska.


That’s insane. Nebraska fans are hardcore it used to be a guarantee any good player from Nebraska would play for the Huskers if offered
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101175 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:43 pm to
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Then Nebraska got greedy and 10-win seasons wasn’t enough. They’ve been in CFB lower tier purgatory ever since.


Should have never fired Solich


Even Pelini had several 9-10 win seasons there
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