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SOG NCAA Tournament Projections (3/2) - 8 SEC teams in, 0 in play-in games

Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:53 am











#1 Alabama (1) vs #16 Morehead St/FDU

#4 Tennessee (13) vs #13 Bradley

#6 Kentucky (23) vs #11 NC State/Rutgers

#6 Texas A&M (24) vs #11 North Carolina/Arizona St

#8 Missouri (30) vs #9 Northwestern

#10 Arkansas (38) vs #7 Iowa

#11 Auburn (41) vs #6 Michigan State

#11 Mississippi State (42) vs #6 Duke


Vanderbilt - #12 team out
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98971 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:54 am to
We only dropped to 6? SOG rankings showing a kindness midweek.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41539 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:57 am to
We are a 8 seed.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:58 am to
Can you project where UT and AU stand depending on outcome of Sat game? Does AU have to win to stay in?
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:58 am to
Tennessee is #3 in NET, they projected to just be a 4 seed? I think they are cooked without Ziegler, but still.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9681 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:59 am to
Would love to play duke
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:00 am to
UT has some of the best wins in the country but still being #3 net is a little puzzling. Their NET versus seeding just isn’t likely to match up this year.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Tennessee is #3 in NET, they projected to just be a 4 seed? I think they are cooked without Ziegler, but still.



Because everything else on their resume points to a low 3 seed/high 4 seed (similar to UConn).

- 10-8 vs Q1/Q2 (Houston 12-1, Bama 16-4, UCLA 13-4, Purdue 14-5, Kansas 19-5, Texas 13-8, Arizona 13-4, Baylor 15-8, Kansas State 13-7, Xavier 12-6)
- 4-5 road
- 8 total losses
- #15 strength of record
- #17 wins above bubble
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:13 am to
If Auburn drops to Tenn saturday.. they're out! Do you agree?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:14 am to
quote:

If Auburn drops to Tenn saturday.. they're out! Do you agree?



Don't think they're definitely out but they're in that last 4 in territory where you are leaving yourself in the hands of the committee (and praying there aren't any bid thieves in small conferences).
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11177 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

UT has some of the best wins in the country but still being #3 net is a little puzzling. Their NET versus seeding just isn’t likely to match up this year.

Net loves their defense.

They lost one player and got two back hard to tell where they land.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:20 am to
Hey SOG,

Do you wanna buy my full-session pass for round 1/2 in Bham? I bought em a while back but cna't go anymore
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Don't think they're definitely out but they're in that last 4 in territory where you are leaving yourself in the hands of the committee (and praying there aren't any bid thieves in small conferences).
Agree with this. Regardless of what happens, AU has no room to complain too much if they get left out.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Regardless of what happens, AU has no room to complain too much if they get left out.


If they finish 20-11 and 10-8 in the SEC with a final win over UT they'd have plenty of room to complain imo.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Hey SOG,

Do you wanna buy my full-session pass for round 1/2 in Bham? I bought em a while back but cna't go anymore


I'd love to but I'm still waiting to hear on work things for that week before I can fully commit (and won't be able to until mid-week that week probably). I really appreciate the offer.

Sell those things online - you should make a real nice tidy profit.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:27 am to
quote:

UT has some of the best wins in the country but still being #3 net is a little puzzling. Their NET versus seeding just isn’t likely to match up this year.


I agree, tough to figure out. But if the committee relies on NET, then that seed looks a little low. Be interesting to see if TN is "bumped down" because of the Ziegler injury.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:30 am to
Its bid thieves that get them imo
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:34 am to
quote:

I agree, tough to figure out. But if the committee relies on NET, then that seed looks a little low. Be interesting to see if TN is "bumped down" because of the Ziegler injury.



They have tried to make it pretty clear that they only use it as a tool for comparing wins/losses, but every year people kind of forget that. There are always a few random outliers that usually get seeded accordingly.

Houston finished last year #2 in the NET and was a 5 seed. Same reasons as Tennessee - great efficiency numbers, but the resume wasn't in that same vicinity. Which is why NET is silly and needs to seriously reduce the efficiency stuff. We have efficiency ratings, we need NET to be what it is supposed to be - a tool to rank resumes.

2022 Final NET Rankings (Seed)
1. Gonzaga (#1)
2. Houston (#5)
3. Kansas (#1)
4. Arizona (#1)
5. Baylor (#1)
6. Villanova (#2)
7. Tennessee (#3)
8. Texas Tech (#3)
9. Kentucky (#2)
10. Duke (#2)
11. UCLA (#4)
12. Purdue (#3)
13. Auburn (#2)
14. Iowa (#5)
15. Illinois (#4)
16. Texas (#6)
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
887 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

I think they are cooked without Ziegler


Ask Arky if they think we're cooked without ZZ.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 11:54 am to
I've long said Auburn would be better off falling to 11 than being a 7-10 so I guess there's a silver lining to some of these mind numbingly frustrating close losses.

Of course that's a fine line to walk and given the lack of emphasis on conference tournaments lately we're probably cooked, and rightfully so, if we lose to UT Saturday.
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