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re: So the Tide folk were saying Saturday night if DeBoer didn't make the playoff this year
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:33 pm to 3down10
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:33 pm to 3down10
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#4 Defense #12 Defense #11 Defense And our offense wasn't bad against Oklahoma. We had 3 drives over 70 yards for a TD. It was special teams and turnovers that killed us. I was actually feeling pretty good about our offense. And then we lost our starting TE in the middle of the week before the FCS game. Absent both for Auburn and Georgia. Then against Georgia, we were missing our starting RB as well, among other injuries. To make things worse, we have played the 4th toughest schedule this year which means none of our backups have been getting to play in garbage time, and our starters are even more worn than others.
Oklahoma is #7 in scoring defense and #9 in total defense.
Auburn is #32 and #30.
Georgia is #11 and #13.
Oklahoma forced turnovers against alabama. Nothing about it was flukey. They forced two additional fumbles that weren’t recovered by the defense as well. They slowed down the run with cover 3 zone and 2 high safeties. alabama only had 80 rushing yards in that first game with 2.4 ypc.
Oklahoma’s best defensive player and best pass rusher, defensive end Mason Thomas, missed the first game. He might be back for the playoffs.
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It wasn't tricks, it was an offense that wasn't injured to hell and back. Our true weakness is with edge speed rushers.
The misdirection and trickery he used earlier in the year isn’t near as effective. Part of that is because it’s now on film and the other part of it is because the best defenses were loaded on the backend of the schedule. Georgia improved drastically by the end of the year defensively and doesn’t resemble what they were in September and October.
Every team in the playoffs that alabama might face has an elite defense.
Oklahoma as I mentioned is top 10 in both categories. Indiana is #2 in scoring defense, #6 in total. Texas Tech is #3 in scoring defense and #5 in total. Oregon is #9 in scoring defense and #4 in total. Ohio State is #1 in scoring and total. Georgia is #11 in scoring and #13 in total.
There will be no hiding the deficiencies of this alabama offense.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 5:47 pm
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:45 pm to Stidham8
Auburn fan explaining football to us. Good one sport.
Maybe you should apply at Lee County?
5 losing seasons in a row.
Maybe you should apply at Lee County?
5 losing seasons in a row.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:48 pm to Stidham8
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Oklahoma is #7 in scoring defense and #9 in total defense.
Auburn is #32 and #30.
Georgia is #11 and #13.
I'm using F+ numbers, which are opponent adjusted. Not raw numbers where schedule strength isn't a factor.
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Oklahoma forced turnovers against alabama. Nothing about it was flukey. They forced two additional fumbles that weren’t recovered by the defense as well. They slowed down the run with cover 3 zone and 2 high safeties. alabama only had 80 rushing yards in that first game with 2.4 ypc.
Oklahoma’s best defensive player and best pass rusher, defensive end Mason Thomas, missed the first game. He’s expected to be back for the playoffs.
80 yards rushing was an improvement for Alabama this year. More than expected. It came with over 300 yards passing.
Again, 3 drives over 70 yards. That's what I want to see.
Turnovers require the offense to make a mistake. The defense has to be there to capitalize it and create opportunities for the mistakes, but at the end of the day you can't make or predict a fumble in any kind of way that you can count on.
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The misdirection and trickery he used earlier in the year isn’t near as effective. Part of that is because it’s now on film and the other part of it is because the best defenses were loaded on the backend of the schedule. Georgia improved drastically by the end of the year defensively and doesn’t resemble what they were in September and October.
Not sure what you mean, our bread and butter were dagger routes. The biggest problem I've seen is with speed rushers and people are pressuring Ty so that he doesn't have time to allow deeper plays to develop.
I agree Georgia got better defensively. Alabama's is rated higher though(barely). The Georgia game was a good bit like the Oklahoma game with Georgia getting a lot of points on short fields.
And offensively, we made our fair share of mistakes with drops and shite lately.
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Oklahoma as I mentioned is top 10 in both categories. Indiana is #2 in scoring defense, #6 in total. Texas Tech is #3 in scoring defense and #5 in total. Oregon is #9 in scoring defense and #4 in total. Ohio State is #1 in scoring and total. Georgia is #11 in scoring and #13 in total.
We'll see how good these teams really are. Most of them have played easy schedules and haven't been tested all that well. Texas Tech for example, I'm really not buying it. They don't seem that fast to me and the best team they played was BYU, who isn't good. Not sure why we pretend Big12 is a power conference.
I think the biggest factor will be if Alabama can get healthy in time. If we don't get some guys back, we're fricked and none of this matters.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:55 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I was one of them that said next year was a big year and I still mean it, We can't play like we have the last few weeks on offense and go to Norman and win.
Mid season Alabama beats the hell out of Oklahoma....but this bunch for whatever reason has regressed. Now defensively there has been improvement, could still be better but you can see definite progress as the season has gone on. Offensive performance is totally unacceptable. The head coach has to earn his pay.
One silver lining is what happened during the season no longer matters, Those that are in the playoffs all start fresh one and youre done, You're in, now make it happen, or go home.
Mid season Alabama beats the hell out of Oklahoma....but this bunch for whatever reason has regressed. Now defensively there has been improvement, could still be better but you can see definite progress as the season has gone on. Offensive performance is totally unacceptable. The head coach has to earn his pay.
One silver lining is what happened during the season no longer matters, Those that are in the playoffs all start fresh one and youre done, You're in, now make it happen, or go home.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:02 pm to tigerpaw3513
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I love Deboer at bama He will win just enough for them to keep him there without winning the whole thing
Definitely could be Bama’s Les or BK. Natty may be harder than it was for Les though.
Legit concern. I think the times have changed though and Bama will have a quicker trigger finger.
Honestly think once he has his program in place (read: sample size), making the CFP every year won’t be enough. They’ll need to make it every year and make a run every 3-4 years.
Possibly unrealistic, but I think those are the exceptions
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:05 pm to koreandawg
Post the link
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:11 pm to cajunbama
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Who exactly was saying this?
Every message board you have, by multiple posters.
Bamarant
Tidefriends
BOL on On3
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:27 pm to koreandawg
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koreandawg
If you were to eat Uga, how would you prepare the dish? Like a normal Tuesday dinner or something special?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:31 pm to koreandawg
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Every message board you have, by multiple posters.
Bamarant
Tidefriends
BOL on On3
Good lord, how many Bama boards do you read?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:34 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Good lord, how many Bama boards do you read?
I've never visited any of them.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:05 pm to captdalton
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Even Dubose and Shula, who had winning percentages of 51% and 52%, got four years.
I proved to you why these 2 got more than 3 years. You just keep repeating nonsense.
Maybe we'll keep Deboer longer than three years without any hardware, but I certainly won't support it. There has never been a coach in our history who lasted longer than three years and worked out without showing strong improvement (Bear Bryant) or obtaining hardware in those first three years. There is no reason to entertain a coach for longer than 3 years without something to show for it.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:24 pm to imjustafatkid
What coaches were fired after 3 years at Alabama?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:32 pm to cmayes56
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What coaches were fired after 3 years at Alabama?
The only coach in the history of Alabama football to be fired after 3 years is Ears Whitworth.
Mike Price was also fired in less than 3 years if you want to count that one.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
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BK got blown out in a SECCG too. I can probably find you posting about it, if I look hard enough. He maybe makes the playoff in 2023, if it was 12 teams also.
LSU was ranked 14th in the CFP rankings entering the 2022 SEC championship game. In 2023, LSU was ranked 13th entering that weekend with 3 regular season losses.
You think LSU would have risen three spots after losing 50-30 if there had just been a 12 team format. That is what you are saying. They would not have. I can tell you who would have though, #6 10-2 Alabama. And in 2023 you say they would have jumped 2 idle teams already ahead of them. Again, that is sidewalk logic. I can tell you who would have made it though, #8 11-1 Alabama.
As usual, your post hit like a suicide bomb.
I will wait while you
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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You just keep repeating nonsense.
I listed the history of Alabama coaches for the last 70 years.
Sorry you were wrong and have a chapped arse.
Put the shovel down.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:07 pm to imjustafatkid
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Maybe we'll keep Deboer longer than three years without any hardware, but I certainly won't support it.
That and $60 million dollars might get you an audience with Greg Byrne so you can express your displeasure.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 11:40 pm to koreandawg
I like DeBoer. After the Florida State loss I would have never believed Alabama would make it to the playoffs. Most bama fans realize that Nick Saban is the GOAT and DeBoer is not going to be as successful. I really think there was some locker room issues the past several years that caused some real issues for DeBoer last year. It seems those have worked themselves out at this point. I would say that if he has not won the SEV or the CFP by year five then I might start getting restless. Next year will give us a good idea of what his tenure at Alabama will be like. If things are still not clicking on offense then that will raise some concerns.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:50 am to Dirk Dawgler
quote:Too low. The advantage is not having #1 or #2 on your back -- But if the Tide doesn't win, it would be one of the Dawgs greatest seasons w/ the games and competition the have and will play.
Just to clarify. Georgia is #3 seed.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:12 am to cmayes56
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What coaches were fired after 3 years at Alabama?
Many coaches "move on" after three years because they know they wont be retained. We all know this. Just because they weren't "fired" doesn't mean they weren't led to the exit.
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