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re: So in retrospect, how close was the Herman to LSU deal?

Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Jimbo deal was a done deal...Herman always a leverage deal


Yes yes and yes
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Was it all smoke screen? Or was it ink not drying before Texas stepped in? Was it bad ethics by Herman or your ad not giving a proper contract


I don’t know the answer, but I guarantee you that whatever it is, it was NOT LSU’s fault. Anytime something doesn’t go their way, it is due to some other reason beyond their control. Besides, the Fisher and Herman pursuits were a ruse in order to secure Coach Shrimpboat.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78450 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:30 pm to
Why does it matter? When you are fortunate to have Coach O locked up to a long term contract you just count your blessings and pile up one victory after another . Because We comin’.
Posted by DaronTexas
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Member since Apr 2016
1461 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:33 pm to
You just typed a entire letter over a simple response lol. Type away keyboard warrior. And show me where i talked shite about the sec in this thread. Put the bottle down you can't handle it.
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Herman is a bust at Texas. He won’t get them back to relevance. A&M is more likely to win a championship before UT.

The damage is done. You’ve got A&M, OU, LSU, BAMA and even Arkansas coming in and snagging kids that should be longhorns.



He had a top 3 class last year. But people focus too much on a recruiting ranking rather than putting it into context. It's like those '14 and '15 classes for Tennessee being ranked top 5, but they signed 64 kids combined in those two cycles. About 50% of them were 4* or higher.

Charlie Strong was bringing in roughly 45-50% 4* and higher in each class. Texas's 2018 class had 70% of their class 4* or higher, they are sitting at 67% right now with some big fish still left out there. He's recruiting fine, nobody is going to 'lock down' that state.

Generally speaking, after the top 12 or 15 recruits in each class those guys largely don't see the field in meaningful situations. There are obviously some exceptions (misevaluations, developed more, growth spurt, etc.) but usually they aren't contributing much
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:53 pm to
TLDR

Tweet it an I will
Posted by KSGamecock
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/2/18 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Do you know what we cancelled our series vs GT a few years ago that was set for 2019-20?

Yeah, I do, and I know why. Because it was mandated by B-Ham.

And yeah, I do, but the series was scheduled for 2021-22.

And yeah, I do ... when it was cancelled it was right at 2012 expansion time, maybe 2013, but the series had been scheduled prior to 2012 expansion ... I wanna say 2009.

Hell, I stood in Scotty's rail car and listened to Waddell explain the whole thing to us the night of the big birthday party when Spurrier was there. We had no choice.

It was, as still is, assumed that we will be moving to a 9 game conference schedule by 2021-22.

Now, may I ask, what does cancelling the Ga Tech series have to do with any of this GW?
Posted by scrooster
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37611 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:14 pm to
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You just typed a entire letter over a simple response lol. Type away keyboard warrior. And show me where i talked shite about the sec in this thread. Put the bottle down you can't handle it.

I just crapped all over your bullshite "weak OOC" schedule narrative you fricking douche.

You came in here talking shite and got your bitch-arse slapped-down.

That's typical whorne for you right there.

I'll type it again. Play a tougher schedule than us then talk shite about our schedule.

I'll type it again. Beat us once then talk shite to us.

You tapped out some bullshite on the board, got bitch slapped, then you wanna call someone else a keyboard warrior. Gosh damn where do some of you whornes get off being such gosh damn hypocritical pussies. You pick a fricking fight, you proceed to get bent over, then you back-up and cry about it.

frick you.

Wait, are you female? If so then I apologise ma'am. That's it is it not ... you're female.

sheeeeesh
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:34 pm to
For what it's worth, I originally meant to put why and not what. Didn't realize that until now. Wasn't implying you were unaware.
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2766 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:36 pm to
LSU needs to go all in on Stoops 2019. If that fails go pure shady and get Briles. Both would dominate at LSU.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:39 pm to
Are you fricking retarded or something?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37611 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:42 pm to
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For what it's worth, I originally meant to put why and not what. Didn't realize that until now. Wasn't implying you were unaware.


I get it.

whorne fan over here talking trash about our schedule got me a little fired-up.

I just can't stand whorne fans. Hell, I've got cousins who, we can't even talk college football because they think they are so superior to everyone else. My A&M cousins, they're cool, they're good ole boys. But whorne fans are just douches.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Herman inherited a much better situation at Texas.




I agree with everything till this point. You can argue it was better but much better is a stretch.
Posted by DaronTexas
Screwston Tx . R.I.P DJ SCREW
Member since Apr 2016
1461 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:37 pm to
He in his feelings over a simple response. Over a thread that has nothing to do with his team at that.
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42453 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:46 pm to
Herman wanted the Texas job
Texas job was not open
LSU job was open
Texas was set on keeping Strong
When LSU offered Herman, Herman agent went to Texas and forced their hand.
Alleva had no backup plan
LSU admin was not going to let Alleva get into bidding war for Herman or Fisher
I don't see LSU ever paying a head football coach $7 million.
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:49 pm to
Honestly I don't think Coach O is the coach because "Alleva had no backup plan."

It was ego pure and simple. A classic "you can't fire me because I quit!" sort of move.

Coach O was announced as the coach before Herman officially got the Texas job. Seems like once Joe was rejected by Herman he gave the job to the only other person that had interviewed so far so he could act like Herman's offer was pulled before Herman got officially hired at Texas.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:51 pm to
Texas A&M Fan:
quote:

LSU...?

No, you can't have any. Go home, your mom's calling you.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13409 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:56 pm to
I'd take Boom over Malzhan any day of the week.
Posted by DaronTexas
Screwston Tx . R.I.P DJ SCREW
Member since Apr 2016
1461 posts
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:16 pm to
I think your head coach is underrated. Yall are quietly putting a good class together for 19. Plus gus took Yall to the natty. Yeah yall didnt win but just making it is a accomplishment. Alot of programs would take gus in a heart beat. Unfortunately bama is putting pressure on yall.
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