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re: So after getting Scott Cochran and the #1 recruiting class, I think ...

Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:31 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:31 am to
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Saban was willing to give Cochran a massive raise to remain at Alabama in early-2016, but no longer.


He was the highest paid S&C coach in the country. Obviously Saban did not think highly of him.

Posted by TheBigAlabama
Member since Dec 2017
85 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:52 am to
You got Cochran to coach special teams
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6936 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:29 am to
But but but, did he bring the deer antler shite?
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:00 am to
Does any of it fix that UGA has been soft as Charmin for 20 yrs? Doubt it
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:07 am to
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Imagine being excited for hiring some S&C mongoloid for an actual on field coaching position


Imagine being a grown man and getting kicked out of your home stadium with your mommy.
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9753 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:18 am to
Checking in to say frick Georgia. Good day
Posted by Todd Greene
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2019
2457 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:27 am to
Not really no 1. Per capita of players signed. Georgia just added a few 3*s Bama said nope! Quality.. We have the actual no 1. Class if you know anything about math. See if you can figure out what I'm laying out for you. If you 2 $10's and 4 $5's but I have 1 $20 and 2 $5'S who has tbe most individual dollars in their wallet? This is how some of tbe ratings ate skewed and it's
wrong and poorly legitimized.
Posted by CajunLiberal
Memphis
Member since Oct 2019
256 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:40 am to
You’re all forgetting that all of these “wins” are completely offset by the fact you also hired Matt Luke to replace the best OL coach in the nation.
Posted by ugacdawg
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2017
418 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:07 am to
I see what you are saying, but until UGA did take a couple of flyers at the very end the UGA per/player rating was the highest of all teams. They had the room and took the chance. I’m not sure at this point anyone could really say there’s much difference in the top 3 or 4 classes from a quality standpoint.
Posted by ugacdawg
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2017
418 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:10 am to
You’re all forgetting that all of these “wins” are completely offset by the fact you also hired Matt Luke to replace the best OL coach in the nation.

Not sure this is really a hot take? That ‘best OL coach isn’t the nation’ isn’t coaching o-line anymore, he’s trying to figure out how to keep boosters happy and win a couple of SEC games next fall.

Matt Luke, by all accounts, is a pretty solid o-line coach, regardless of his head coaching performance (if Pittman tanks as a head coach no one is going to say he forgot how to coach the o-line, right?). He was up for the Boyle’s award as recently as 2016.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 10:11 am
Posted by Kk74
Mobile
Member since Jun 2017
1186 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 10:13 am to
That’s pretty Auburn of you.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9335 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:03 am to
A&M will be runner-up
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2308 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:07 am to
you guys win the off szn natty every year... and havent won a natty in 40 years
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:08 am to
You must have been sleeping the last 2 times Georgia played LSU because with or without Burrow we are still the superior team and will kick the shite out of y’all a 3rd straight time.
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
5637 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:17 am to
21-14
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:17 am to
The media is making a big deal of it. I personally don't get it. Perhaps he will be a good on-field coach and he may not be. Maybe he is a great recruiter, that seems to be a prerequisite to be on Kirby's staff these days.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Saban was willing to give Cochran a massive raise to remain at Alabama in early-2016, but no longer. He sees what many Alabama fans have begun to notice - we aren't out-physicaling teams at the line of scrimmage anymore. This trend started in 2017 and has gotten progressively worse.

Cochran has been slipping. Combine the above with the fact that our players have been getting nicked up more and more with injury over the last three seasons and it has become readily apparent that Cochran just isn't the same coach he was 4-5 years ago.

That's probably why Saban laughed in his face when he came into Saban's office asking for a promotion.


This makes absolutely zero sense.

First of all, if Cochran's performance has really declined this much, Saban would have either (a) jumped at the chance to move Cochran out of the weight room and onto the field, where as ST coordinator, he couldn't possibly do worse than others we've had under Saban and would also have had Cochran on the road as a recruiter, an area where he would likely excel, or (b) just fired his arse.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 11:34 am
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 12:32 pm to
Solid upvote here.
Posted by LSU Bayou Jim
Houma, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1001 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

 think the Cochran hire is as much about recruiting as anything. Despite his deficiencies as an offensive coordinator Coley was a pretty strong recruiter and Cochran is there to fill that gap.






So it is about recruiting. You would think that since the West seems to spank UGA every year, they would want someone to direct the talent they have as opposed to to crapping their shorts when it counts.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
7934 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 12:54 pm to
The more UGA tries to emulate Bama, the worse they get beat down by LSU. I don't understand the strategy here.
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