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re: Slive... 2014 and 2015 to be a 6-1-1 format

Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:36 pm to
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Well I agree but Vandy/Ole Miss and State/UK have no interest in not always having their shitty cross-divisional opponent.



Yeah, looks that way.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:41 pm to
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t would take an exceptionally bizarre year for the SEC Champion not to make the playoff, 8 games or 9 games.



Yep. And if we are to believe what they tell us when they say SOS will be heavily weighted, then an extra loss won't hurt us. 9 games = tougher schedule. The team will be rewarded, the fans will be rewarded with better matchups, and the conference will be rewarded with more teams having a chance at the playoff.

I agree with others who say that Slive is sitting back and waiting to see if what the Playoff sellers are selling. You can SAY you will take tougher schedules into consideration all day long, but how will you actually implement it.

Slive is probably right in doing so. In the meantime, transitional schedules shouldn't be micromanaged like they have been.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36603 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:43 pm to
9 games is worse than the 6-1-1 because of the 4-5 home/away switch. Specifical because some teams have neutral site games while others don't. It would even out over time but no doubt bama would get 5 games first and LSU fans( self loathing LSU fan here) would bitch.

I wish they would drop the 6-1-1 for 6-2 or make conferences 16 teams and go to 10 game maga schedule. I enjoy the Florida/LSU game and UGA/AU but i couldnt care les about Bama/UT.


Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:50 pm to
really sux.

Columbia SC is probably a very nice place but I would much rather have 2 rotating games with east rather than a standing home and home with USCe and 1 rotating game. USCe is just not a natural rival.

The conference could keep Bama/Tenn and AU/UGA if those schools wanted to.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:53 pm to
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Columbia SC is probably a very nice place but I would much rather have 2 rotating games with east rather than a standing home and home with USCe and 1 rotating game.



Just another problem in the 6-1-1. We are in the same conference. It shouldn't take almost 20 years to have an away game for a team in the same damn conference.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26249 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:55 pm to
The snowball has already started.... SEC will either drop permanents or go to 6-1-2 in the near future, or some combination of both. (6-1-2 for Bama/Aub/Uga/Tenn and 6-0-3 for everyone else).

It's happening, it's just a matter of time now. The stragglers day by day are finally starting to see, "you know what, they're right, there is a better way to do this than the status quo."
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:59 pm to
From the article:
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In talking to some coaches, the 6-2 scheduling model can be worrisome because it could mean some schools would drop regular nonconference rivalry games -- like Kentucky dumping Louisville -- in order to lighten their load at times. No Eastern Divison team wants to play Alabama and LSU during the same season, and no West team wants to play Florida and Georgia in the same year.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 12:59 pm to
I don't think anyone doubts that. You'd have to think that they could get more money with 9 games than 8 through TV deals and that they want a tougher schedule for the selection committee.
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6-1-2 for Bama/Aub/Uga/Tenn and 6-0-3 for everyone else
I'm in favor of this. For the record, most Alabama fans want 9 games so long as we keep TSIO.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:00 pm to
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It shouldn't take almost 20 years to have an away game for a team in the same damn conference.

More like 12, but still you are right there should be more switching of cross divisional opponents
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:04 pm to
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No reason to go to 9 games until the SEC is penalized on strength of schedule. This allows the league to take the temperature of the playoff committee and their insistence on strength of schedule. No reason to cede the position of power until it is apparent that it is required.

Couldn't put it any better.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:04 pm to
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The conference could keep Bama/Tenn and AU/UGA if those schools wanted to.


Vandy/OM, MSU/UK, & Arky/Mizzou will all want to keep theirs as well. So you'd have Bama, UT, AU, UGA, Vandy, OM, MSU, UK, Arky, & Mizzou all playing a 6-1-1 schedule; and LSU, aTm, USCe, & UF playing a 6-2 schedule. I don't see how that would work.
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:08 pm to
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Not really, just solves one gripe, but can you imagine the bitching if bama had UK and Vandy as part of the two and LSU had UGA and USC as theirs.



Or, you know, if USC or UGA has a down year when Bama plays them, fans of a certain team would claim that the SEC knew exactly what year they'd be down and scheduled accordingly.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:09 pm to
It seems like it wouldn't work but I think it would
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:15 pm to
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For the record, most Alabama fans want 9 games

I think most fans do. I get the competitive edge of an extra cupcake from the coaches perspective and the financial aspect of an extra home gaame from the AD's view. But as Coach Saban asked..."What about the fans?" LSU has UAB, Kent St and Furman. Get rid of Kent State or Furman an schedule another east opponent....as long as everyone does so of course.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Because that is what the vast majority of the SEC coaches, ADs, and presidents want?


Tyranny by the majority is what they want.

The powers that be in the SEC do not exhibit progressive and liberal values of fairness and equity in competition.

I wonder why that is.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Not sure if serious. I thought only 4 teams wanted it


No it passed 9-3 or 10-2.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22298 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Get rid of Kent State or Furman an schedule another east opponent....as long as everyone does so of course.


The 9 game schedule is not a problem for Alabama and LSU.

It's a CONFERENCE problem.

Bowl monies.

The middle to bottom dwellers win 5 instead of 6 games, and now are not eligible to contribute to the pie.

There is no weight being given to fairness and equality. These guys don't give a shite about determining a TRUE champion, even less than the NCAA does.

You would think that when your conference has won the last 7 BCSNCG's, the least you could do is make that conference's schedule with only 14 teams as fair and equitable as possible.

Everyone understands that it is impossible with 120 teams and only 12 games. But, you have a chance to make sure that the most worthy teams from the strongest conference represent it, yet you pull this shite.

And this is why I have turned on my allegiance to this conference. frick the SEC. They got my last road trip dollar last year in Fayetteville. Cancelled 3 trips for this year, Athens, Starkville, and Tuscaloosa, where we've won 3 out of 4, and I missed the one we lost.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:38 pm to
All this scheduling shite is one of the main reasons I was against expanding the conference in the first place.

12 is large but manageable, 14 is too many. 16 would be retarded. At that point the divisions would be 2 seperate conferences.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:40 pm to
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The 9 game schedule is not a problem for Alabama and LSU.

It's a CONFERENCE problem.



yeah, for the lower half of the SEC the 9th conference game is a bad thing. Not just for the loss of half a home game each year but also reducing your chances of making a bowl game (and getting the extra practices that help you build a program if you make a bowl), but because it beats up your fanbase when you can't even make it to a .500 record

Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30283 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Cancelled 3 trips for this year, Athens, Starkville, and Tuscaloosa

Can I purchase your tickets to Athens and Tuscaloosa?
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