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re: Slive... 2014 and 2015 to be a 6-1-1 format

Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22250 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:56 pm to
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All this scheduling shite is one of the main reasons I was against expanding the conference in the first place.


I can no longer turn a blind eye to it.

I'm not going to be the one bending over and taking it.

The person in charge of our scheduling is an old friend and teammate of mine, and when I bring this kind of shite up, it always ends with "it's a business."

Don't think LSU isn't aware of the sacrifice it makes. It's just worth it in the end to the people who count. The ones that count the money.

I can't turn my back on my alma mater. And I love the game too much to abandon it. So, I'm going to draw the line on my loyalty to the conference.

The SEC has the power and means to make this right for all its members, and still share extraordinary profits. They had a chance to address fairness and equality issues within the conference, and chose to ignore it.

I rooted for every opposing team in the bowl games, except Vandy (I just can't root against them yet) and it felt good.

Screw this greedy conference. And I'm as right wing as they come. I just cannot support anything that is not on an equal playing field.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:58 pm to
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I just cannot support anything that is not on an equal playing field.


Lsu doesn't have another SEC school instate to compete with for recruits. Is that fair to schools in other states that do?
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 1:59 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22250 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 1:58 pm to
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Can I purchase your tickets to Athens and Tuscaloosa


I'm not requesting them.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22250 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Lsu doesn't have another SEC school instate to compete with for recruits. Is that fair to schools in other states that do?


Go find somebody else to play ping-pong.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:02 pm to
You brought up the fairness argument. Lsu doesn't really have a Div I school to lose recruits to. Is that fair to other schools that have high competition with their instate talents?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:05 pm to
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They had a chance to address fairness and equality issues within the conference, and chose to ignore it.


If that chance to address fairness and equality included not screwing schools out of their valued annual rivalries, then fine. But if it didn't, then piss off.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30160 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:06 pm to
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You would think that when your conference has won the last 7 BCSNCG's, the least you could do is make that conference's schedule with only 14 teams as fair and equitable as possible.
I imagine that since the SEC has won the last 7 BCSNCG's and raked in wads of $$$ while kicking arse, that they'd want to keep this gravy train rollin along just like it is.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:07 pm to
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You brought up the fairness argument. Lsu doesn't really have a Div I school to lose recruits to. Is that fair to other schools that have high competition with their instate talents?



You control what you can control. The conference can control scheduling.

End of argument.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:07 pm to
The conference can control much more than scheduling.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:07 pm to
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You brought up the fairness argument. Lsu doesn't really have a Div I school to lose recruits to. Is that fair to other schools that have high competition with their instate talents?
You're comparing one thing the conference can control with one thing it can't. Some states are bigger. Should the conference address that? Tennessee and Kentucky have a lower black population from which most collegiate players come. Is that fair to their instate recruiting? Should the SEC do something about that? Just because there are natural advantages associated with some schools doesn't mean a conference should willfully ignore things within its control.

But, I'm intellectually honest. If I were you, I'd want no part of dispensing with the the Tennessee game. I don't doubt that it means a lot to some of you because you like the history of it. I appreciate that. I just wish you were intellectually honest enough to admit that Florida has been the superior program over the last two decades and will be for the greater part of the next two decades.

There's nothing wrong with admitting that it's advantageous to not have to play them every year.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58495 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:08 pm to
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valued annual rivalries


Lulz.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:09 pm to
Yall skirted the actual question. Is there equality in Lsu having no Div I competition to sign in state talent, as compared to other SEC schools that have several schools competing for the same quality of talent?
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:10 pm to
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If that chance to address fairness and equality included not screwing schools out of their valued annual rivalries, then fine.
If you're admitting that you would rather your favorite team have a game that means something to you and would rather the conference protect that than the overall integrity of the schedule, I respect your honesty.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22250 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:10 pm to
There are NO boundaries for recruiting in this conference.

WTF are you arguing?

If we can divide Australian recruits evenly?

Please don't embarrass yourself filibustering in this manner.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:11 pm to
Again, you fail to address the question. Lsu has a distinct advantage within the state of Louisiana to sign the top talent in the state each year, due to no competition from other in state schools. Not every SEC team has the same benefits. Is that equality in your mind?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123560 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:12 pm to
Lol
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:13 pm to
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Yall skirted the actual question. Is there equality in Lsu having no Div I competition to sign in state talent, as compared to other SEC schools that have several schools competing for the same quality of talent?
LSU has an advantage with that. And Alabama is a bigger state that is located closer to Georgia recruits (which is too big of a state for UGA to get all of them), as well as Florida. Should the conference do something over which it has no control on those fronts?
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7657 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:13 pm to
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Is there equality in Lsu having no Div I competition to sign in state talent


So LSU has used this so called inequality to sign every top recruit to ever come out of the State? Nope, We still have competition, just not in state.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:14 pm to
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LSU has an advantage with that.


And I personally, accept that. Just wanted to show that:

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I just cannot support anything that is not on an equal playing field.


was a ridiculous, biased and self serving statement that had no merit.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 2:15 pm to
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Alahunter



Somehow I find myself arguing my points as though I'm discussing them with a rational person...

and then every time a Bama fan hits my with something that reminds me that I'm wasting my time.
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