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re: Sitting out bowl games for the NFL

Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18002 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:39 am to
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I’m tired of this shite.


You should find something else to do with your time
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:39 am to
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Keep being naive

And you keep being a sad frick that sees the world through race colored glasses.

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The NCAA Rule is pretty damn thick and filled with rules controlling what REVENUE producing players can and can't do, very little of it controls what the highly paid coaches can or can't do


Do these rules only apply to athletes of color? Schools have huge amounts of money invested in revenue sports. There's your answer. Its not about race. Its about money. Do you have any idea
what the value of a football scholarship at an SEC school is worth?

What Coaches can and can't do is spelled out in contracts between the coaches and the school. Schools and coaches sue each other all of the time over money. Google LSU and Chavis.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101760 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:41 am to
It’s amazing how many people see college level athletes as property.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3510 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:52 am to
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It’s amazing how many people see college level athletes as property


You do realize that the NFL is the one causing them to sit out for 3 years before they go pro right? The NCAA isn't the one that controls that. You also realize that you could just not go to college? If you feel that a group of people are taking advantage of you and riding on your coat tails to make money while providing you nothing to get to the next level, why would you voluntarily participate in that? I mean youre so good, after high school just work out at the local park, send film of it to the NFL and work a normal job and get paid like you feel you deserve. I mean those coaches and fancy schmancy schools arent doing anything but using you so you should be totally fine.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:52 am to
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It’s amazing how many people see college level athletes as property.


They are under a contractual obligation to play a sport at a school and the school is obligated to provide an eduction, food, housing and other services.

Its amazing how many people don't realize that the student athlete receives a shite ton of money for their services and a vast majority of the student athletes are over compensated for those services.
Posted by LSUjhawk
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Jun 2019
245 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:18 am to
If it would be hyped or advertised right, the Senior Bowl should get an uptick in interest from fans everywhere as the only serious game besides the CFP playoff games. The entire NFL is certainly involved. Probably doesn't draw interest as a betting venue, is the drawback.
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:51 am to
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Are you willing to force Asst Coaches to stay with their Teams and do their fvcking JOBS thru the end of Bowl Season?

Yes, or pay huge buyouts.
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Thought so

No, you stupid frick. Thinking is obviously something that dull mind of yours struggles with.
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Coaches & Assts are majority white and the players are majority Black, so you wanna add in more rules to control the players and when it comes to the weasely chicken shyt stuff that the coaches do, when they run out on their players for more money & start poaching Recruits and trying poach other Staff members, you don't say a damn thing

Stick that race card up your racist arse, you shite stain on the fabric of society.
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You have tons of opinions about 1 group (the majority Black group), but when it comes to the majority white group (the coaches), you're quieter than a rat pissing on cotton

Not as quiet as a member of your family when the police are looking for the burglary suspect.

I'll bet your arse is real quiet when the donors who pay for those scholarships are White by a huge majority, aren't you, boy?
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How about you shut the fvck up

How about you suck start a shotgun, you racist piece of human refuse.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:01 am to
I haven't watched a single bowl game this year except LSU vs Oklahoma. And probably won't. Why would I?
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:27 am to
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It’s amazing how many people see college level athletes as property.

They are not property.

They are adults who should have to honor signed agreements and contracts.

The military academies don't let their athletes sit out that military obligation that comes with an appointment to the academy.

Why should these other self-centered assholes be allowed.

"Thanks for the education and opportunity to showcase my skills. Now I am going to skip out on my teammates, coaches, university, and the donors who paid the way for my sorry arse to go to college."
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:32 am to
So how is this about race?

Nothing stops a black player from going to an HBCU if they’re concerned about race.

I mean other than the shite academic standards, worthless degree, and almost zero exposure they would receive as an athlete.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8601 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:38 am to
IMO, if the NFL and NCAA can force an athlete to stay a number of years before earning money as a pro the athlete should be able to make a business decision once their value has been achieved.

I think the 40 year old wearing a college jersey will get over it.
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:42 am to
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IMO, if the NFL and NCAA can force an athlete to stay a number of years before earning money as a pro the athlete should be able to make a business decision once their value has been achieved.


They made a business decision when they agreed to play for that university in exchange for an education.

Does that scholarship have a clause? "Athlete may pick and choose which games they want to play in."
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26045 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:44 am to
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IMO, if the NFL and NCAA can force an athlete to stay a


The ncaa doesnt force a kid to stay. Never has.

You can blame professional organizations for not giving the athletes choices. But the athletes are never forced to stay.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8601 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:46 am to
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They made a business decision when they agreed to play for that university in exchange for an education.


I understand that, but there also isn't a real alternative available to the athletes for going pro.

If there was a minor league option like there is for baseball, I'd get it. But there isn't. Why do you think that is? $$$$$
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:48 am to
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$$$$$

Which is why they should be penalized for not staying.

Schools have invested a lot of $$$$$ in them.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8601 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:54 am to
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Schools have invested a lot of $$$$$ in them.


This must be a weird troll attempt?

Multi-billion dollar industry and you think the schools investing in the athletes is the leg to stand on?
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21171 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:55 am to
Players foregoing bowls seriously doesn’t bother me.

The purpose of going to college and presumably getting an education is to better yourself and gain an opportunity for a better career than had you not gone to college.

The lucky few who have been gifted genetically as well as mentally tough to play football at a high enough level for a university to offer a scholarship shouldn’t be indentured to said university once they desire to leave. They have paid in blood and sweat and possibly injury for that school and now they leave it for the opportunity to play in the NFL while getting richer than the kings of old.

Let them better their families. I just hope and wish more could do so while keeping a lion share of that money when the game stops and they are left to retirement.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106265 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:03 pm to
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It’s amazing how many people see college level athletes as property.


Or that they’re somehow “owed” something by them.

Would I like to see guys play another game? Sure. But they don’t owe us fans anything. My career and livelihood isn’t decided by whether they play in that bowl game, their’s is. It’s not my business how they decide to handle that.
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:05 pm to
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This must be a weird troll attempt?

Multi-billion dollar industry and you think the schools investing in the athletes is the leg to stand on?

You aren't real bright, are you?

Read your words. "Multi-billion dollar industry"

Do you know what the product is? The players. That is why schools will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a guy who can catch a football, but isn't worth killing otherwise.

They spend a lot of money. They have a right to expect full ROI.
Posted by Rock Floyd
Member since Dec 2019
517 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Or that they’re somehow “owed” something by them.

If that is the way you want it. Cool.

When the player gets hurt let his parent's insurance cover the bill.
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