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re: Since 2000, What SEC Team Has Overachieved & Underachieved Most?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:18 pm to tiger perry
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:18 pm to tiger perry
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Georgia would have beaten Notre Dame that year
We don't know that
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:20 pm to craigbiggio
Notre Dame was garbage 5 SEC teams would have beaten them.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:20 pm to WG_Dawg
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We also don't know that lsu would have beaten grambling last year but you can probably look at both teams bodies of work and make an educated guess on which team was better.
Not really comparable
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:21 pm to tiger perry
We'll never know
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:24 pm to craigbiggio
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You don’t know that
Meh. You can play contrarian all you want to, but what can't be ignored is that they're in the game if they beat Alabama in Atlanta. The final score in that game was 32-28 and Georgia fell just five or six yards short of the end zone in the final seconds of the SEC Championship Game.
Alabama was up 28-0 on Notre Dame at halftime and the final was 42-14. They didn't have the horses on the line of scrimmage to compete with either Alabama or Georgia. The Bulldogs would have eventually outphysicaled the Irish at the point of attack and that would have been all she wrote.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:26 pm to RollTide1987
Transitive property lol
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:31 pm to craigbiggio
Notre dame is a program that doesn’t beat teams like 2012 uga, but an upset could have happened.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:38 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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He was their entire offense and in typical Gustav fashion, he had no idea how to adapt when Kerryon got hurt.
That’s called strategy and personnel. That literally is the opposite of luck. It’s not luck that your offense was based around 1 player and you didn’t recruit well enough at RB of all positions at a school like Auburn that you lost. An injury to 1 player is never an excuse when you are allegedly an SEC powerhouse.
Ohio State won a championship with their 3rd string QB. It’s called roster management. It’s a central part of the game.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:41 pm to TheJimBrown7
The auburn OL was overmatched in game 2. Nothing a healthy KJ would have fixed.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:45 pm to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved UGA and maybe LSU.
Overachieved Missouri and MSU.
Overachieved Missouri and MSU.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:46 pm to djsdawg
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quote:Luck is being prepared when opportunity presents itself. That’s literally not what luck is. Luck is often needed to get the opportunity in the first place, and then luck is also often needed when given the opportunity.
Well hell if that is literally not what luck is why prepare at all? If luck is required it is entirely possible that waiting on luck would eventually pan out and we'd win it all. A lot of folks kind of claim that's what LSU did last season and Auburn did a few years ago...I ain't among 'em but there are those who will claim both "lucked out".
UGA has been there recently. Blowing a coverage in OT on 2nd and 26 is not bad luck it is ill preparation. Bad luck would be tripping....making the wrong decision is a lack of preparation. Of course that is not the only way preparation played into that game....not being able to get a first down and punting in the fourth quarter played a part and throwing an INT in the third when driving also played a part....all of that was due in part to Alabama being prepared and making a play when needed....but it also comes down to UGA failing to be prepared and making a play when needed. It ain't a lack of luck to squander a double digit lead in a national title game....part of it is playing a damn good, well prepared opponent and part of it is bein less prepared. If you have a problem with Luck being prepared when opportunity presents itself take it up with Seneca...he said it, I just repeated it...
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:52 pm to Solo Cam
You could make an argument both answers are South Carolina. Overachieved during the Holtz and Spurrier years, underachieved at the very end of Spurriers time and all through Muschamp.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:55 pm to Gtmodawg
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Well hell if that is literally not what luck is why prepare at all?
You have to prepare to be able to take advantage of luck.
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Blowing a coverage in OT on 2nd and 26 is not bad luck it is ill preparation. Bad luck would be tripping
Bad luck is a ball bouncing off a helmet to a bama player, the refs not calling a personal foul on bama LB, the refs calling offsides on Tyler simmons, having your #1 wr knocked out of the game, along with Sony Michel.
All of that luck + prep allowed bama to be able to take advantage of the situation. Luck helped create the opportunity for them.
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If you have a problem with Luck being prepared when opportunity presents itself take it up with Seneca...he said it, I just repeated it...
Saying it doesn’t make it true.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 4:03 pm to mistaken4193
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They have a huge advantage on everyone because they are the flagship school of probably the most talented state per capita in the whole country
I'm not sure if you know this or not, but other teams are able to cross the state border and recruit players. We have a slight advantage to being the instate school but it's not a huge advantage by any stretch.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:08 pm to sand mountainDvalues
quote:Yeah, that was a hilariously bad take.
He had 34 touches that game for 233 yards. The next closest player had 4 touches.
KJ was an absolute force of nature in that game. His playmaking ability opened up the entire rest of the offense, and Kirby and Co had zero answers. Best thing that happened to UGa in 2017 took place in the Iron Bowl when Johnson went down.
As for 'luck', we had two critical unforced fumbles and an uncharacteristic blocked FG. Despite this, were still only trailing by 6 going into the 4th quarter before the wheels came off.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:00 pm to FearlessFreep
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Yeah, that was a hilariously bad take.
KJ was an absolute force of nature in that game. His playmaking ability opened up the entire rest of the offense, and Kirby and Co had zero answers.
We had already answered him in the first game, and then our wheels came off in special teams. The timing of most of his production, and most of Auburn’s scoring, proves my take was a fair take on reality.
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As for 'luck', we had two critical unforced fumbles and an uncharacteristic blocked FG.
Both fumbles were forced, and a blocked fg isn’t luck. OTOH, the refs incorrectly took a td off the board for uga, which helped keep the game close.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:23 pm to LSUnHogCountry
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Since 2000
Ok boomer
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:28 pm to mistaken4193
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UGA easily has underachieved the most. They have a huge advantage on everyone because they are the flagship school of probably the most talented state per capita in the whole country...... and yet they don’t have shite to show for it but their fans act like they belong at the same table with Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and LSU
Ohio State is the run away favorites almost every year! Get players over others in the Big 10. In the SEC UGA is not the run away favorites to win the SEC every year! See the difference? This is the same for Clemson in the ACC!
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:42 pm to FearlessFreep
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As for 'luck', we had two critical unforced fumbles
LMAO
I guess if you ignore the fact that our defensive players literally forced the ball out by hitting the ball carrier's arm both times then sure, they were unforced.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:49 pm to WG_Dawg
Can’t trust a persons football analysis if they don’t understand the difference between forced and unforced fumbles.
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