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Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:58 am to Solo Cam
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Underachieved- UGA by a mile
Tennessee has declined greatly starting in 2000.
I don't see how you can square this logic. UGA has definitely underachieved with their talent, but they've still won championships and have made championship appearances in the last 20 seasons. Tennessee's last great football team was in 2001 and they haven't done anything of relevance since their last SEC Championship Game appearance in 2007. Tennessee is far and away the biggest underachiever of the 21st century when compared to results on the field during the 20th century.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:44 am to RollTide1987
State definitely overachieved from 2010-2017 relative to their history, but the 2000's and the Moorhead era kinda rule them out when you're discussing the last 20 years as a whole.
Missouri is probably the right answer, though I think South Carolina deserves a mention as well. Only one division title but they were a train wreck at the end of the 90's and Holtz and Spurrier had them at worst decent and occasionally very good for over a decade.
Underachievers? Gotta be Tennessee and Georgia.
Missouri is probably the right answer, though I think South Carolina deserves a mention as well. Only one division title but they were a train wreck at the end of the 90's and Holtz and Spurrier had them at worst decent and occasionally very good for over a decade.
Underachievers? Gotta be Tennessee and Georgia.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
Step 1 is to read the rest of the post. You can say Tennessee has underachieved for sure but there no comparing the resource of Tennessee and Georgia.
Georgia should win 1 natty at least every 15 years with that stockpile of talent at literally everything.
Georgia should win 1 natty at least every 15 years with that stockpile of talent at literally everything.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:06 pm to tiger perry
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Since 2000, What SEC Team Has Overachieved & Underachieved Most? by tiger perry UGA has underachieved in the fact that they do not have a national title by now especially with all that elite talent. AU, Bama, LSU, UF all have one or more. Now it's Georgia's turn and they always fall a little bit short. Can Kirby get them there??
KUDOS — GREAT POST — WHY I COME HERE
Can Kirby get them there?
Answer is yes!
Reason:
Kirby keeps picking up the remnants of Saban’s Program while OPENING HIS EYES to what others are doing. Kirby no longer tries to beat Bama at their own game.
He finally did it — Opened up the offense and got him a KING OF THE UP TEMPO QBs in Jamie Newton!
FACT :: If you asked every GA fan what a successful year would be — ie beating one team! They would all answer Alabama on Sept 19 because of the lopsided series this past decade.
LSU and Auburn shagged that Saban @$$ last year and its Kirby & Pruitt’s year to get some in what surely will be Sabah’s last ride
X’s and O’s: Kirby will run a hurry up 75 plays per game and get away from his predictable rushing offense in 2020. The only stump in the way is Covid-19 but if the game is played GA will likely win in a 40+ passing Attempt day that will leave Bulldog fans delirious and Gump fans in total despair awaiting other SEC sharks circling Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:12 pm to LSUnHogCountry
Underachieved- Tennessee or Georgia
Overachieved- LSU or Alabama
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Overachieved- LSU or Alabama
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:03 pm to scionofadrunk
Overachieved is Missouri
Underachieved is Georgia
Texas A&M and Arkansas are also in this conversation but Georgia has a arguably top 5 recruiting class each year.
Tennessee doesn't count for underachieving because anyone in the SEC knew better, the pre-season expectations were not realistic.
Underachieved is Georgia
Texas A&M and Arkansas are also in this conversation but Georgia has a arguably top 5 recruiting class each year.
Tennessee doesn't count for underachieving because anyone in the SEC knew better, the pre-season expectations were not realistic.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:22 pm to scionofadrunk
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Overachieved- LSU or Alabama
No on LSU.
Alabama is a good call. Not because they're not the bluest of blue bloods, but because they've won 5 titles in that time frame.
They've won 25% of the national titles in college football in that time frame. That's insane.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:38 pm to lefty08
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Under achieved Arkansas because they should easily be the 2nd best program in the west
You can’t honestly believe rkansas is better than bama, the current second best program in the west.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:52 pm to Solo Cam
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Step 1 is to read the rest of the post.
I did. And while Georgia has definitely come up short on more than one occasion, they are still #3 in the SEC in overall wins since 2000, have won multiple conference championships, and have been in a position to actually win a national title. Tennessee, in contrast, is a joke of a program compared to where they were at the turn of the century. Now you can say that Georgia has superior resources to Tennessee and you'd be correct. That has always been the case, however. Tennessee had to survive by recruiting nationally and they were pretty damn good at doing that, especially in Fulmer's more formative years.
Compared to where the two programs were in January 2000, Tennessee is definitely the bigger of the two underachievers.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:05 pm to RollTide1987
Can't believe typical UGA hater rt87 is our biggest ally in this thread. I knew most of the board had a severe lack of logical thinking skills but didn't realize it was this bad.
Ut has underachieved exponentially more than uga, that's not even debatable. Literally the only defense anyone has (mostly UGA hater solo cam) is "but recruiting!" which is ridiculous. First of all, Tennessee has always been a poor recruiting state but it certainly never stopped them in the 90s, mainly bc they recruited Atlanta so well which dried up in the 2000s. But the most jaw droppingly stupid thought is that bc tech is the only other program in state that that is our only competition. Auburn is less than an hour from our border. Clemson is 45 minutes or less. Tallahassee is less than an hour, as is Knoxville. Tuscaloosa is ~3 hours from the line. Just bc the state of GA is talent rich doesn't mean that UGA automatically gets first dibs, especially in the modern era when many Atlanta area kids are transplants with no real allegiance to any college, UGA included.
As mentioned we have multiple sec titles, BCS appearances and wins, a title game shot, a shite ton of wins and top 10 finished. Tennessee, the 2nd best program historically, pales in comparison to a laughable degree. Tennessee is the answer and there is no other option
Ut has underachieved exponentially more than uga, that's not even debatable. Literally the only defense anyone has (mostly UGA hater solo cam) is "but recruiting!" which is ridiculous. First of all, Tennessee has always been a poor recruiting state but it certainly never stopped them in the 90s, mainly bc they recruited Atlanta so well which dried up in the 2000s. But the most jaw droppingly stupid thought is that bc tech is the only other program in state that that is our only competition. Auburn is less than an hour from our border. Clemson is 45 minutes or less. Tallahassee is less than an hour, as is Knoxville. Tuscaloosa is ~3 hours from the line. Just bc the state of GA is talent rich doesn't mean that UGA automatically gets first dibs, especially in the modern era when many Atlanta area kids are transplants with no real allegiance to any college, UGA included.
As mentioned we have multiple sec titles, BCS appearances and wins, a title game shot, a shite ton of wins and top 10 finished. Tennessee, the 2nd best program historically, pales in comparison to a laughable degree. Tennessee is the answer and there is no other option
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:07 pm to boXerrumble
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UGA had all the luck in the world in 2017. Everything aligned perfectly
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:13 pm to boXerrumble
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UGA had all the luck in the world in 2017. Everything aligned perfectly.
First of all this is a retarded take with literally nothing to support it.
But to actually respond to this drivel...bama was massively weakened late in the year by missing like half their linebacking corps. It's why they barely escaped msu and lost to Auburn. Then all those hurt guys were healthy again by title game time. But yeah, stars totally aligned for us.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:21 pm to LSUnHogCountry
If we're starting at 2000 I say UGA underachieved given the talent and expectations and lack of quality in the rest of the East. The fact that a program as classless as UF was the standard bearer for so long is a stain on our collective honor.
UT gets a pass here. Think about it. If they underachieved so did Arky, Vandy, the Cleveland Browns, Caddyshack 2, and every piece of Chinese electronics ever made. They expectations are similar: shittiness is the standard.
Overachieved: Auburn. They are up against serious headwinds and have found a way to compete and win Chips. Success despite their recruiting challenges is one thing, but overcoming collective depression, clinical little brother syndrome, and extremely severe small dick energy is nothing short of miraculous. Kudos to the Barner.
UT gets a pass here. Think about it. If they underachieved so did Arky, Vandy, the Cleveland Browns, Caddyshack 2, and every piece of Chinese electronics ever made. They expectations are similar: shittiness is the standard.
Overachieved: Auburn. They are up against serious headwinds and have found a way to compete and win Chips. Success despite their recruiting challenges is one thing, but overcoming collective depression, clinical little brother syndrome, and extremely severe small dick energy is nothing short of miraculous. Kudos to the Barner.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:21 pm to blueprint_one
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but Georgia has a arguably top 5 recruiting class each year.
Georgia had a grand total of 2 top 5
classes between 2000 and 2016.Both UT and UF had better recruiting classes on average in the time period and by a pretty wide margin some years.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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But to actually respond to this drivel...bama was massively weakened late in the year by missing like half their linebacking corps. It's why they barely escaped msu and lost to Auburn. Then all those hurt guys were healthy again by title game time. But yeah, stars totally aligned for us.
East was all time bad.
Eason injured allowing Fromm to step in. Completely avoided injuries otherwise.
Lucked out having Kerryon Johnson getting injured a week after running all over your defense in Jordan Hare.
Had Bama relying on a True Freshman, backup QB to lead a 2nd half comeback down two TDs.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:29 pm to RD Dawg
Place yourself back in the year 2000. Both UGA and Tenn are strong/elite programs. UGA finished 8/4, 8/4 and 9/3 the previous three seasons. Tenn's record for the past three years was: 8/4, 9/3 and 13/0 (NC). Pretty similar teams with Tenn having the edge with the most recent NC. Plus, Manning was the toast of the NFL.
From 2000 forward there's no question that Tenn has underachieved more than any SEC program. Just ask their fans.
UGA fans may be frustrated in the failure to win a NC, but this does not compare to Tenn's plight.
From 2000 forward there's no question that Tenn has underachieved more than any SEC program. Just ask their fans.
UGA fans may be frustrated in the failure to win a NC, but this does not compare to Tenn's plight.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:35 pm to dlc83
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From 2000 forward there's no question that Tenn has underachieved more than any SEC program. Just ask their fans.
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There is no argument otherwise. Since 2006, we have two (2!) wins combined over our two biggest rivals. We haven’t had a 10 win season in 13 years. We just had nearly 20% of our all time losses occur between 2010-2019.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 4:08 pm to Solo Cam
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Georgia should win 1 natty at least every 15 years with that stockpile of talent at literally everything.
With a little good luck, we would have numerous MNC.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 4:10 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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East was all time bad.
and we were really, really good. Just because we were light years better than the rest of you doesn't diminish how good we were. I mean UGA/UF/UT were all bad in 2010 but someone had to win the east. UGA was mostly trash the entire decade of the 90s, is it fair to say UF/UT "got lucky" for winning the east every year then?
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Eason injured allowing Fromm to step in. Completely avoided injuries otherwise.
lol. Yeah aside from "starting QB goes down first half of the first game and we throw in a true freshman in his place wiht a trip to notre dame the next week" all was peachy. Fromm happened to be pretty good, it's why you recruit. I wouldn't call that being lucky.
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Lucked out having Kerryon Johnson getting injured a week after running all over your defense in Jordan Hare.
oh that again
We completely changed our entire offensive gameplan from game 1 to game 2. We also retooled the OL rotation and it obviously worked. Playing in the dome opposed to jordan hare probably helped, as did having a full game tape of our frick ups to study and correct. Kerryon being less than 100% is a laughably bad reason to blame for that loss. And if you wanna really and truly play that card, how about one of our best and most productive players on defense leaving the bama game in the 2nd half? Or our best DL having fricking mental issues and off his meds that game? quote:
Had Bama relying on a True Freshman
now wait jsut a second. You just said us relying on a true freshman was fine but when it's the other team it's luck? And you glossed over the fact I mentioned earlier that the only reason bama was perceived as weak a month before was from losing half their linebackers but got them all back for the title game, was that lucky for us or nah?
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