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Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:53 pm to DawgsLife
Y'all have fun arguing. But I would suggest you take a couple of minutes to Google Sovereign Immunity and Mike Leach. It might save some time.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:54 pm to DawgsLife
I don't even care about that. I'm just fricking with you.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:58 pm to GlossuRabban
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Are you a state school?
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Well, yeah.
Well, I guess Auburn's fans of claiming that you have an inherent disadvantage to Georgia and Alabama because you are not a state school is just wrong, then, right?
I gotta go. You guys have a good afternoon, and have fun.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 1:59 pm to GlossuRabban
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I don't even care about that. I'm just fricking with you.
I figured, but some times I am slower than others. Really do have to go!
It'll work out. Gus is still better than a lot of other coaches in the SEC.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:00 pm to jb4
He should. Then Auburn can go ahead and hire Freeze.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:01 pm to DawgsLife
actually yes AU is …
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:01 pm to jb4
Make it $1 million a year for 40 years then we can do the Bobby Bonilla/Mets thing with Gus/Auburn until 2058
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:03 pm to DawgsLife
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Well, I guess Auburn's fans of claiming that you have an inherent disadvantage to Georgia and Alabama because you are not a state school is just wrong, then, right?
I assume they meant not the flagship state school. We are definitely a state school.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:07 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:The Boosters are taking this to court? On behalf of a contract between Auburn University and Gus Malzhan? So AU Boosters not only offered and agreed to the terms and conditions of the contract, they legally executed the document as well?
He should take whatever he can. Boosters are apparently willing to go to court to adjust his buyout
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:08 pm to GlossuRabban
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Texas Tech used it because Leach was accused of mistreatment of players
Then it sounds like tex tech claimed he was fired with cause, as opposed to claiming that they have Sovereign Immunity and could therefore simply fire him without cause, despite an apparent contrary contractual obligation.
It may be splitting hairs, and I am sure as hell no lawyer, and everything I know about this case I learned in this thread, but the claim of sovereign immunity by Texas tech appears to be with regard to an unchallengeable right to assert that there was cause to fire Leach, rather than an unchallengeable right to disregard contracts
Of course, the result is the same. If I understand correctly…
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:11 pm to jb4
He shouldn't. The longer his payout period, the longer Auburn has to try and stop paying him for whatever reason.
His contract is signed by both parties, Auburn will never win in court against that.
And with the way Auburn's fan base has treated him, I wouldn't blame him for trying to get the maximum amount in the shortest possible time.
His contract is signed by both parties, Auburn will never win in court against that.
And with the way Auburn's fan base has treated him, I wouldn't blame him for trying to get the maximum amount in the shortest possible time.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 2:52 pm to luvdoc
quote:There is no "cause" to fire Gus. These cats that agreed to that astronomical extension and buyout 10 months ago did to show their support for their HC. They knew what his ceiling was, and now they have to live with their decisions whether they keep him or can him.
but the claim of sovereign immunity by Texas tech appears to be with regard to an unchallengeable right to assert that there was cause to fire Leach, rather than an unchallengeable right to disregard contracts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:14 pm to luvdoc
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Is it as simple as a claim that governments cannot be sued, even when in violation of a contract they entered into willingly? Seems like a hell of a Pandora's box to m
That is pretty much it. You can't sue the government if they don't want you to. It is how Texas Tech got out of paying Mike Leach his money. It is a strong arm negotiating tactic to reduce the buyout of a man who is clearly no longer mentally competent to do his job.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:24 pm to 1999
quote:No. that’s fricking retarded. Your school just spends a shite load more on legal fees for an iron clad contract that they’re not getting out of.
auburn is awesome
LSU should have done this with miles.
Taking someone to court doesn’t mean your gonna win.
Gus doesn’t even have to buy a lawyer. He didn’t violate his conduct rules to trigger any clauses to void the buyout. It’s black and white. They have to pay him the full buyout if they want out.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:26 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Boosters are apparently willing to go to court to adjust his buyout
That would be disastrous for future hires. Please do it.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:27 pm to DawgsLife
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Auburn is not protected under the Sovereign Immunity clause because they are not a state school.
Everybody knows Auburn is a private university in West Georgia.
This is known.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:40 pm to DawgsLife
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Texas has a strict sovereign immunity law, which says Leach can only sue the school in the state if he gets the Texas legislature’s permission.
And here is the rest of the story per...Mike Leach himself:
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Mike Leach
@Coach_Leach
Replying to
@MrChaos6
and
@JonHGreenspan
Texas is the only state in the union that never quit exercising sovereign immunity on contracts. Every other state did a long time ago
1:19 PM · Aug 2, 2017
So Auburn can't use sovereign immunity.
Texas once again is a whole nother country.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:53 pm to BrerTiger
Cant forget this lovely list.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:58 pm to cardboardboxer
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Cant forget this lovely list.
That's awesome.
I hope Leach has seen that.
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