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re: Should Gus accept 2 million a year for the next 20 years

Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:29 am to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Boosters are apparently willing to go to court to adjust his buyout



auburn is awesome

LSU should have done this with miles.
Posted by GlossuRabban
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:30 am to
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One offered by the party trying to get out of it.


There may be other circumstances involved. There are clauses in all those contracts as well.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:31 am to
but it could drag out for years. how long would gus be willing to fight. might be easier for him to take a reduction and move on with his life. i'm sure auburn has the time and resources to stretch this out as long as possible.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:32 am to
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There may be other circumstances involved







Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:33 am to
No because he could take his buyout out and invest it in a 1 year CD or something safe and then when rates rise 2-3 times next year he could put it in an annuity and get more money annually for 20 years than the 2 million.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:35 am to



This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:36 am to
level payments annually should be roughly 2.7 million dollars assuming a 2% interest rate.
Posted by UliKunkel
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:36 am to
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but it could drag out for years. how long would gus be willing to fight. might be easier for him to take a reduction and move on with his life. i'm sure auburn has the time and resources to stretch this out as long as possible.



Unless they feel EXTREMELY confident they could win, fighting contracts like this and dragging it out would be beyond comprehensible. Courts usually award interest rates between 6 and 8 percent + penalties for delaying contract fulfillments. Add that to the costs of attorneys for both parties if they eventually lose and you will understand why most teams choose to just pay the buy-outs and move on.
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:36 am to
When Boogs go in to talk to GusBus about the contract he should say the contract is in force and I am not changing it in any way.
PAY me the MONEY
Posted by Bankshot
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:37 am to
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The Mets gave Bobby a 5.1% interest rate on his deferred salary. If Gus deferred the 32m buy-out over a 20 year period at 5.1% they would need to pay him annual payments of $4,326,875... They would end up paying him over $86m for the buy-out including interest.


Yes, you're right. But, I think Gus would negotiate it to stay in good graces with the Auburn higher-ups and fans. Bobby Bonilla could have cared less what Mets fans like myself think about him.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:38 am to
Should work with Bobby Bonilla on that
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:39 am to
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I think Gus would negotiate it to stay in good graces with the Auburn higher-ups and fans



good point

he wants to feel loved when he comes back to visit

he could do that and create the "mistreatment" narrative all at once - he's that good at self promo
Posted by Taurus 357
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:43 am to
Can Bobby Bo run the Nik Marshall offense? Does he have any eligibility left? Sign him up
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:45 am to
I love coach firing season

I love it even more when Gus is in trouble



Kansas Jayhawks baby! Or, he will take a year off and his minion cult will dutifully call into radio shows all next year and create a Gus Sweepstakes narrative.
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:52 am to
GusBus will take all that money and buy a Olive Grove in Tuscany Italy and sit on his arse for ever.

Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:54 am to
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There may be other circumstances involved. There are clauses in all those contracts as well.



Clauses that specify bad behavior which Gus isn't qualifying for.

The only angle you got is to try the eminent domain trick Texas Tech used to screw over Mike Leach, I am pretty sure Alabama has those laws on the books.

But that made it really hard for Tech to hire and keep coaches that were not alumni for a decade, which is a obvious consequence of doing that. Tubbs left for a non Power 5 job because of that shite.

There are no easy answers. Welcome to what every other program not named Auburn faces when they are stuck with a coach.

Hell we can afford a $75 million coach and even we let Sumlin have a final wasted year so that way we wouldn't have to cheap out on Jimbo's staff.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:57 am to
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He has a $31.2 mill buyout at the end of the season, and it is most likely subject to quite a bit of offset. Accepting $40 mill over 20 years and being able to take other coaching jobs without any offset would be very nice.




Apparently not.
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In addition, AL.com has learned there is no offset or mitigation language in the contract. That means the amount of money Auburn would owe Malzahn should it dismiss him would not be reduced by any salary he would make at his next job.


According to the numbers here, if Malzahn is fired after this year, Auburn is on the hook for $31,725,000 (might be off a bit). Fifty percent ($15,682,000) is due within 30 days and then the remainder is due in 4 equal annual amounts of $3,965,625.

With that payout structure and no offset language, there is no way he accepts that offer.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:59 am to
how do you know what Gus has or has not been doing back in the Waffle House stock room?
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:06 pm to
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eminent domain trick Texas Tech used


can you elaborate?

I would imagine that any underhanded efforts by a University to avoid paying what was promised can only hamper its efforts to sign the next coach.
Posted by Luke
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:11 pm to
If Auburn claims they fired him with cause, Gus' only recourse would be to sue Auburn in the court system. In Court, Auburn then can claim sovereign immunity.


Auburn wouldn't argue whether or not they did Gus dirty, they'd argue that Gus doesn't have the right to sue the government.



This is exactly what Texas Tech did to Mike Leach. A decade later, Leach is still trying and losing lawsuits to get his money.
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