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re: Serious Question for Officials
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:30 am to CaptainBrannigan
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:30 am to CaptainBrannigan
quote:having only seen a clip, this seems the biggest issue.quote:
why can't you spike the ball if you fumble the snap?
You can. You just can't some the ball backwards.
re: spiking after a fumble, I think the idea is, it's a non-play. Offense concedes a down to stop the clock, but is required to execute it cleanly to get that.
Think baseball, intentional walk with a runner on 3rd. You simply concede that batter and put him on 1st, nobody gets "live action". I almost think the rules have recently changed at some levels, to where you can tell the umpire that and they send the guy to 1st base.
That, compared to throwing the pitch, and risking a passed ball or wild pitch, or a balk- which allows the guy to score from 3rd.
What Auburn did was basically a passed ball, and should have negated the "clock it" option. If it's not in the rule book, it needs to be. Otherwise, they should just go ahead and make it a rule that you can line up and concede the down and 1 second, in order to get a clock stoppage. Bigger penalty (maybe 5 yds and/or a few seconds more), if you don't line up to do it.
I don't like the concept, but if that's the intent, go ahead and do it.
Regarding the actual spike, the ball and/or motion must go forward. It went backwards in this case, that needs to be a live ball. Period, end of discussion.
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:36 am to War Eagle 777
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Under Rule 7, Section 3, Article 2 of the NCAA FBS rulebook, it states a forward pass is illegal if “the passer to conserve time throws the ball directly to the ground (1) after the ball has already touched the ground; or (2) not immediately after controlling the ball.”
Basically, it's to prevent players from getting an easy out after fricking up.
Refs still fricked it up though.
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Under Rule 2, Section 19, Article 1, it states, “A pass is forward if the ball first strikes the ground, a player, an official or anything else beyond the spot where the ball is released. All other passes are backward passes. When in question a pass thrown in or behind the neutral zone is forward rather than a backward pass.”
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:48 am to FearlessFreep
And a longer kick
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:50 am to War Eagle 777
quote:Because every spike is technically intentional grounding, the rule that allows for the spike without a grounding penalty requires it to be done immediately without interruption. I don't remember the specific language.
why can't you spike the ball if you fumble the snap? What is that rule intended to prevent?
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:55 am to FearlessFreep
No clear recovery? Both an Auburn player and Arkansas player were still going for the ball and the Arkansas player cleary recovered it at the refs feet. It was absolutely a fumble recovered by Arkansas and the refs blew it. Arkansas got screwed and should have won the game.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:08 am to MikkUGA
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Both an Auburn player and Arkansas player were still going for the ball and the Arkansas player cleary recovered it at the refs feet.
After the whistle. When whistled, no one was touching the ball
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:12 am to NYCAuburn
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:29 am to sugatowng
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Things that make you go hmmmm...
the education system in Arkansas...
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:11 pm to NYCAuburn
Another question...couldn't Arkansas have declined the penalty allowing them more time on the clock after Au's kick?
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