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re: SEC turns down Clempson and FSU?

Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:42 pm to
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assistant program director at ESPN


He’s an assistant program director at the ESPN AFFILIATE in Greenville SC.
Posted by viceman
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:44 pm to
Oklahoma Fan
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So sick of everyone trying to join our conference!


Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:44 pm to
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Posted by UCF_BLUEBLOODS
Member since Feb 2021
61 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:52 pm to
Should have been UCF and west VA from the get go now get ready to watch Texas destroy the sec
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:05 pm to
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Should have been UCF and west VA from the get go now get ready to watch Texas destroy the sec


Yeah, who doesn't want those two prestigious institutions..
Posted by ATW
Columbia, Mo
Member since Jul 2021
759 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:17 pm to
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OU is only team that won't be fighting for a .500 SEC record every year. And I am not sure OU won't end up being a .500 in conference SEC team until they learn that defense does heavily influence



Our defense last year was good. Will be very good this year. The stigma is still there but not for long. We’ll go no worse than 10-2 on average. Talking shite on a message board is one thing but when your team is about to play OU you will be nervous. Texas…not so much.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:23 pm to
Do we really want these guys in our conference?
Posted by Damnshame
Yukon
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:02 pm to
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But adding those 2 markets may actually exceed.financially what Tx/ Ok brought , meaning 2 new massive markets- actual new eyeball.


Laughable to think either bring more "eyeballs" than OU.Do people really think more people across thé country Will watch UVA or UNC over OU or UT FB ? Folks need To think way burger than local markets
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:40 pm to
Lol
Posted by Ttazhorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:48 pm to
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Neither team can afford to give up ALL of their TV money until 2036. Clemson and FSU aren't going anywhere (and neither is any other ACC team...)


Doesn't ESPN already have the ACC locked in with their GOR? Doesn't make sense for them to move to the SEC where ESPN would have to give them a better deal..
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:20 am to
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Over UNC??


EweNC is not an SEC school at all, far less so than even Missouri culture-wise.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:24 am to
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OU is only team that won't be fighting for a .500 SEC record every year. And I am not sure OU won't end up being a .500 in conference SEC team until they learn that defense does heavily influence


I love SEC fans and media setting the bar here.

If OU goes 6-3 first few seasons you will literally have to admit SEC is not as good as you thought it was
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:35 am to
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Here is the problem with future expansion..

Each SEC school will be making about $60 million per year in 2022 and about $75 million per year in 2025 & forward. In order to bring two teams in, they would have to be worth a combined $150 million per year just to keep everyone at the 2025 payout.

Is it worth it to add more teams without an increase in payout? I’m assuming the answer is no, but perhaps there are other factors in play there.

Realistically, I would think the SEC would only do it for an increased payout. 10% seems reasonable.. $7.5 million x 18 teams = $135 million extra

That would mean the two new teams needed to be worth $285 million or more combined.

There are likely only four teams that could bring that kind of value..

Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan

One or more of those paired with Clemson and/or Florida State might get there.. but likely not just the two of them by themselves.

Just my opinion.


this is what all of this is about, but you forgot 1 thing, the SEC itself gets an equal share. so its actually currently 17 shares when Tx/OU join.

the comment about streaming is because, traditional viewership is coming to an end in the next 10-15 years. No longer will things like Directtv or dish or cable tv exist in its current format. Direct will not be able to say they are charging $3 for person living in the SEC footprint adn only $1 for those outside.

it will be al a carte and most will be subscription streaming services. Think about the difference in TV viewership habits and internet habits from 2005 until present day.....totally different and there will continue to be seismic shifts to streaming only.
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:41 am to
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Over UNC??


EweNC is not an SEC school at all, far less so than even Missouri culture-wise.




UNC is highest profile school in a highly populated state that values college sports

There are only so many of those and other than Ohio State the rest are all in the SEC now

Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
352 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:07 am to
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Doesn't ESPN already have the ACC locked in with their GOR? Doesn't make sense for them to move to the SEC where ESPN would have to give them a better deal..


It only makes sense if ESPN does some math and says that the potential matchups will bring vastly larger viewership numbers, more than anything in the ACC could offer and more than a comparable SEC matchup with a weaker SEC team might otherwise bring. Otherwise yes, they've already got that team's content at their disposal. Better to pay less for it.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 10:10 am
Posted by Jake81
Member since Jul 2021
238 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:18 am to
GOR is in favor of the conference not the TV partner

ACC could still hold leverage ESPN cant just transfer because the "own it anyway"

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