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re: SEC Standings Since 1992 Expansion

Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:40 pm to
For The Truth re: Alabama, you have to add back the games the ncaa decided UA should forfeit because Antonio Langham signed a napkin for an agent in the celebratory aftermath of the national title victory over Miami, and the vacated wins when the Shula players sold textbooks to their friends. The ncaa is totally arbitrary as to sanctions. For an example, the year before Langham signed that napkin, Auburn was hit with the loss of a few tv games though the coaches were providing incentives to players.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26614 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Every SEC game Texas A&M and Missouri have played has come since 1992... its just that they've all been in the last 6 seasons.


UGA played a&m in a bowl game. That might skew numbers
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
102391 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:41 pm to
We also played Missouri in a bowl game in 2005


But it's okay if we just forget about that one
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
25906 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:43 pm to
Lol VOLS are still easily Big 6 despite sucking dick for the past decade
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

For The Truth re: Alabama, you have to add back the games the ncaa decided UA should forfeit because Antonio Langham signed a napkin for an agent in the celebratory aftermath of the national title victory over Miami, and the vacated wins when the Shula players sold textbooks to their friends. The ncaa is totally arbitrary as to sanctions. For an example, the year before Langham signed that napkin, Auburn was hit with the loss of a few tv games though the coaches were providing incentives to players.

Then we have 11 SEC titles instead of 8. Can't have it both ways.
I suspect you also post on Rivals.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
70862 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

For The Truth re: Alabama, you have to add back the games the ncaa decided UA should forfeit


I believe those are already in there as Alabama's tie to Tennessee in '93 is included in the OP's post.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:00 pm to
LSU has so many loses in the SEC the last 6 years it shouldn't have had
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Then we have 11 SEC titles instead of 8. Can't have it both ways.
I suspect you also post on Rivals.


I don't keep up with you numbers but I do count 1984 for you guys because they won that on the field, in spite of what some suit in an ncaa office thought about it.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18507 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Then we have 11 SEC titles instead of 8.
Wait, I thought that Florida only had 1 SEC title (1984) taken away from them. Where do the other 2 come in?
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10839 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:36 pm to
1984,85,90
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10576 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:44 pm to
Neat. Thanks for the tie, SC. I think. To be at 4 and this include our worst 90s years is pretty good. Every team has had a down spot in this time period, though.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12221 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:44 pm to
So you cheated and got punished? Wins don't count.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3442 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:49 pm to
Pretty fascinating that the 2 new teams have improved the depth of the league by settling in as middle class. For as much trash as we get, it does appear we have made the league deeper which is better than was said would happen in 2011 when we joined.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31806 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:50 pm to
It's odd seeing Florida ahead of Bama, knowing that the Gators are mediocre and Bama is now the standard whereby all other programs are measured.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73352 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:55 pm to
Alabama does have about 16 conference wins taken away for NCAA penalties.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:18 pm to
And only one of the top 6 is missing something from their trophy case.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:33 pm to
I like using only regular season games, so the total should be 208 (= 8 x 26) for each team except Texas A&M and Missouri. Here's what I get...

Post-Expansion Winning Percentage in Regular Season SEC Games Since 1992
#1. Florida, 0.7404 (154-54)
#2. Alabama, 0.7043 (146-61-1)
#3. Georgia, 0.6418 (133-74-1)
#4. LSU, 0.6082 (126-81-1)
#5. Auburn, 0.5962 (123-83-2)
#6. Tennessee, 0.5841 (121-86-1)
#7. Texas A&M, 0.5208 (25-23)
#8. Missouri, 0.4792 (23-25)
#9. Arkansas, 0.4375 (90-116-2)
#10. S. Carolina, 0.4351 (90-117-1)
#11. Ole Miss, 0.3942 (82-126)
#12. Miss. State, 0.3918 (81-126-1)
#13. Kentucky, 0.2740 (57-151)
#14. Vanderbilt, 0.1923 (40-168)



And of course...

All-Time Winning Percentage in Regular Season SEC Games
#1. Alabama, 0.7135 (419-162-21)
#2. Georgia Tech, 0.6160 (115-70-9)
#3. Tennessee, 0.6125 (333-207-20)
#4. Georgia, 0.6082 (333-212-14)
#5. Florida, 0.5853 (315-221-15)
#6. LSU, 0.5841 (319-224-22)
#7. Auburn, 0.5570 (313-247-19)
#8. Texas A&M, 0.5208 (25-23)
#9. Ole Miss, 0.4803 (260-282-15)
#10. Missouri, 0.4792 (23-25)
#11. Arkansas, 0.4375 (90-116-2)
#12. S. Carolina, 0.4351 (90-117-1)
#13. Tulane, 0.3872 (69-113-13)
#14. Miss. State, 0.3619 (198-354-13)
#15. Kentucky, 0.3095 (167-380-12)
#16. Vanderbilt, 0.2527 (134-414-18)
#17. Sewanee, 0.0000 (0-36)
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:08 pm to
As an older Gator I can remember how powerful Ga Tech was in the early 1960s...we played them every year along with UGA & AU. Ga Tech vs Bama was all out war and Bear Bryant would bend rules just a tad.

I remember when Bama got called out by the SEC for the all famous "sleeper" play against Vandy when Bama WR would line up within a foot of the out of bounds line and fool teams which didn't know the player was even on the field...of course it was on the Bama side of the field and he was surrounded by players on the sideline. The SEC changed rules after that nonsense to prevent it.

The infamous jaw breaking of a Ga Tech player when they played Bama really heated things up. Ga Tech had higher academic requirements along with Tulane and they departed the SEC in 1965-66.

Back in those days future game contracts were etched in stone and the Gators played Ga Tech and Tulane for some time after they left and the SEC even allowed UF to count those earlier games as SEC contests to even the counts...remember that the SEC had only had 10 teams for a long time.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43213 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

. Texas A&M- 52.1% (25-23-0)
8. Missouri- 46.0% (23-27-0)
9. S. Carolina- 43.3% (90-118-1)


SC is still having to overcome '98 & '99 when Fat Bradstard Scott almost ruined us with a 1-21 streak.

Split those games, have us going .500 even, and it looks a lot different at 101-107-1.

A&M and Mizzou should be listed at the bottom with asterisks given your subject line states "since 1992 expansion."
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29141 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

And that is your main issue of imbalance: Kentucky and Vandy being in the same division.

And yet Tennessee still went 0-8 in the East


And 2-4 vs. Vandy the last 6 years.
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