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re: SEC Returning Wide Receivers : Ranking the Best (SECStatCat)

Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:25 pm to
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6. Jahmarnohnar Ausbon


He a Star Wars character?
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:31 pm to
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His name is Jhamon, not Jhamar.


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Jahmarnohnar Ausbon (Texas A&M) (71.3%)


:dead:
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:33 pm to
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Terrance


Come on StatCat.. Do better

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:37 pm to
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The_Ultimate_Warrior



Posted by Belue2Scott
Iowa (via Norcross)
Member since May 2019
1538 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:38 pm to
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Yeah maybe he should go to Detroit and win super bowls with Stafford and Megatron


Calvin Johnson is retired.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68292 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:52 pm to
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So since Terrace Marshall has the same number for catch % and success rate (69.7%), does that mean that all of his catches were 'successful'?



Correct, 100% of his catches resulted in:

At least 50% of yards available gained on a 1st down
At least 70% of yards available gained on a 2nd down
At least 100% of yards available gained on a 3rd/4th down

Pretty amazing - he should catch more passes

Also means he basically was never targeted on like a screen pass probably or often on slants. Although I do know of a couple occasions of seeing both. He took 1 slant to the house on GaSo in game 1, it was like a 2 or 3 yard TD catch
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68292 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:54 pm to
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In Seth Williams statistical defense, 16% of his targets were deemed uncatchable.



With Bo Nix throwing to him I would think it would have been even much higher than that
Posted by purpgoldblood
stick
Member since Oct 2005
1147 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah Chase is overrated- just ask Venables
Or better yet ask Trevon Diggs
Waddle is a freakish weapon
Chase is unstoppable
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:02 pm to
Drop Rate %
1. Shi Smith (USCe) (1.25%)
2. George Pickens (UGA) (1.30%)



dumb bastard
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:03 pm to
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dumb bastard



You realize that means he has the #2 LOWEST drop rate, right? It's a good thing.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:34 pm to
BS stats. You have to look at the competition, the route and the length of the throw. Also down and distance because it tells you how a defense is playing you. Again, just bringing out stats is a shallow and incomplete look at any player without knowing the situation. In CF it is even more worthless.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:36 pm to
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Seth Williams and Anthony Schwartz would show out at a place like LSU or Bama. Burns needs to be replaced because he isn't getting the true talent to show in the field. Somewhat in Burns' defense, Gus uses his WR for blocking more than catching but your staff doesn't do your WR talent justice. And y'all have had issues with retention at the position which doesn't help either.


Most of it had to due with the routes that Gus ran. Even Danielson pointed out that he never threw to the middle 1/3rd of the field. Slants were not used much at all.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:42 pm to
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BS stats. You have to look at the competition, the route and the length of the throw. Also down and distance because it tells you how a defense is playing you. Again, just bringing out stats is a shallow and incomplete look at any player without knowing the situation. In CF it is even more worthless.





Oh I'm not just bringing out stats - I also watched him play.

He's not one of the 5 best receivers in the SEC. He wasn't in 2019 and he won't be in 2020. He takes plays off, he drops the ball, he isn't explosive. He has one very good skill - he catches balls in traffic and jump balls.

He is not better than Chase, Marshall, Smith or Waddle.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Sonofthetruth
Walker
Member since Dec 2015
740 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:53 pm to
This shite means absolutely NOTHING BAW!!! Just a waste of time.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:05 pm to
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He is not better than Chase, Marshall, Smith or Waddle.



Playing in those systems, I would have him on par with them. Smith and Waddle were good because of speed and placement of the ball by Tua. Williams ran maybe three routes under Gus's Offense and the Ds knew he was the main target.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Playing in those systems, I would have him on par with them


No way - he's basically Kevin Norwood. He's not even close to the all around talent that those guys are.

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Smith and Waddle were good because of speed and placement of the ball by Tua


Nah, they're good because they're good. They're insanely fast, they have great hands and they both make contested catches.

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Williams ran maybe three routes under Gus's Offense and the Ds knew he was the main target.


Yea, Gus' offense isn't helpful, but Williams also isn't fast and drops the ball quite frequently compared to other receivers. He has one very good skill - and that's fine, but he's not on the same all around level as any of the 4 at LSU/Alabama.

He's a poor man's version of George Pickens, basically.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3322 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:09 pm to
Absolutely shocked that State receivers don’t lead in these categories
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22254 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:10 pm to
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quote: dumb bastard You realize that means he has the #2 LOWEST drop rate, right? It's a good thing.


I guess auzach is the dumb bastard
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25425 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:19 pm to
Surely Waddle or Smith from Alabama won the Biletnikoff award. Right?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:20 pm to
Both Smith and Waddle create separation due to speed. They rarely are an over the middle possession receiver. Both can take a slant the distance, but both have dropped passes in a crowd. I think that is why Smith decided to return, to prove he could be that type receiver.
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