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re: SEC Rant trying to justify FSU in the CFP.

Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13374 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:41 pm to
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They beat the #1 team.
Put there preseason.
Posted by Tenn grad LSU fan
Wouldn't you like to know spazz
Member since Apr 2023
573 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:41 pm to
Why because they beat a shifty coach kelly team
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
1347 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:44 pm to
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The committee knows way more about football than you do, it’s obvious.


The committee is largely made up of people who don’t understand football.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:45 pm to
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They beat the #1 team


You mean the #6 team
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:47 pm to
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Put there preseason


So you don’t subscribe to the notion of the team that’s #1 is that until another team beats them for it? 29-0 is deserving of a #1 ranking unless you are an idiot Barner.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:48 pm to
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Put there preseason.


After winning the NC. Twice. And then having an undefeated regular season.

Keep stretching though.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11563 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:48 pm to
This is literally bama fans trying to justify being in. Everyone knows FSU got INCREDIBLY robbed. It’s a complete travesty and a joke. shite like that makes the sport suck.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:49 pm to
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You mean the #6 team


What a stupid fricking argument.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43478 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Everyone knows FSU got INCREDIBLY robbed.


We should go back to the BCS computer model then.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Keep stretching though.


Bama fans acting like other fans are the ones making major leaps in logic is hilarious.

Though, this is the same fan base that melted last year when their 2 loss, non-conference championship, team didn’t get put into the playoffs.

When you think about it from that perspective, it all makes sense.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6901 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:51 pm to
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You mean the #6 team


What an idiot!!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51100 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:58 pm to
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better pray FSU doesn’t beat Georgia


Unless their first string QB makes a miraculous recovery or UGA's entire team decides to sit out the bowl game, this obviously isn't going to happen.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13374 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:10 pm to
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So you don’t subscribe to the notion of the team that’s #1 is that until another team beats them for it? 29-0 is deserving of a #1 ranking unless you are an idiot Barner.
I do know that when you have teams at 5 that end up unranked help falsely move up the first team or two that beats them and so on. Exactly how teams can jump up and then play no one else and seem like a top 10 team without doing anything. That's how Bama is where they are and claiming all these big wins but they didn't beat anyone but each other or a bunch of bad teams. UGA played in that same group were all preseason hyped but didn't drop much because they were all ranked high.

Example 2 teams ranked 5 and 10 but really not top 25 could have the 10 team beat the 5 team barely and they swap to 6 and 9. Then if they play a #1 team that blows them both out they drop to 12 and 15 and the #1 team get alot of hype for beating 2 really bad teams and none are outted til the postseason. Expand this and it's the problem with preseason polls and hype.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13374 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:11 pm to
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What an idiot!!
Bama back to it counts when you beat them and not postseason? Damn. Can yall ever follow the same rules year after year.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:12 pm to
Bama has the #5 SOS and FSU the #55. Bama was also in the top 4 power index and FSU wasn’t. Some people are overthinking this thing.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7803 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:12 pm to

What’s getting lost in all the hand wringing is that, in the end, the committee did exactly what almost every fan here has said they should do in the past:

Highly reward huge wins against Top10 quality opponents and not punish teams so severely that it makes it stupid to even schedule these type games.

Without considering the FSU QB situation, it’s obvious that the committee put a ton of weight on these games:

Michigan Wins over Ohio St (and Penn St)
Alabama Neutral SECCG W over Top 10 Georgia
Texas W @ Top 10 Alabama
Washington 2 Wins over Top 10 Oregon

The committee sent a pretty strong message:

That Texas going to Tuscaloosa and beating Alabama was so HUGE that even going 1-1 in these type games still trumps going 0-0 in them.

That Alabama beating a Georgia team that would probably still be the Vegas favorite to win it all if the 12 team playoff was this year in Atlanta was HUGE.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:21 pm to
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There’s no way to know this. The defense was so dominant that they won their conference title game with a third stringer. You’re basically saying that you can only win with offense. Oh, and the regular season doesn’t matter.


Well, let me try it this way.

They put up 31 points against Boston College and won by 2 points.

They put up 31 vs Clemson and won in OT

They put up 27 vs Miami and won by 7

You people keep talking about “elite defense” and “championship level defense” - but they gave up points to average teams all year, and in close games.

If you want to believe they would have won those games with their backup QB, that’s ’tween you and the Lord. Nothing I can do to help you there.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:24 pm to
There’s nothing to justify when you do everything right. Florida State won every game playing in a P5 conference (a conference that smoked the SEC in head to head matchups this season), why should they have the burden of proof? You justify things when you lose. Why doesn’t Bama have to justify losing by 10 at home to another 1-loss playoff team?
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:26 pm to
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There’s nothing to justify when you do everything right. Florida State won every game playing in a P5 conference, why should they have the burden of proof?


Because while Bama was playing that game against Texas, FSU was playing Southern Miss.

Bama has 2 wins better than any team FSU faced all year.

Playing the 58th ranked strength of schedule has consequences. Sorry. Suck less.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:27 pm to
The sad part is the argument against the ACC.

Fine. The ACC sucks.
FSU should schedule a tough OOC opponent.
They go into the SEC and beat LSU.
They have Florida every year. Beat them with the backup QB.

What should FSU reasonably do? Schedule 3 SEC teams because the other 2 Big 6 weren't good enough?
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