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re: SEC Quarterbacks next year
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:59 am to CaptainBrannigan
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:59 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Against three terrible defenses, including winless Vandy.
Also with a unit that returned one starter overall, a bad offensive line, receivers who dropped 10% of his passes, and no running game.
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:12 am to SidewalkTiger
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Mac Jones' 2019 numbers were a lot more similar to Brennan's.
wrong answer
In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:14 am to BLG
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wrong answer
In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
So numbers a lot more similar to Brennan's. Also, a much better supporting cast around him.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:21 am to Crimsontide1713
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Corral is definitely better than Daniels
Too bad for him it’s a team sport, since his team is Ole Miss.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:27 am to SidewalkTiger
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So numbers a lot more similar to Brennan's. Also, a much better supporting cast around him
In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
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In 2020 Brennan was 60.3%, 8.5 yards per attempt, 154.7 qb rating
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But you know who Brennan was more similar to?
Kellen Mond, who was 63.3%, 7.7 ypa , 146.9 qb rating
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so as not to confuse any readers, in 2020 Mac Jones was 77.4%, 11.2 yards per attempt, with a qb rating of 203.1
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:32 am to BLG
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You think that's good?
60% isn't at all good and 8 yards per attempt is nothing special.
For the sake of comparison, Mac Jones completed 311 of 402 for 77.4%, 11.2 yards per attempt, 41 touchdowns and 4 interceptions.
Oh you’re right, I forgot Mac Jones was coming back...
4,400 yards, 44 TD and 12 INT is solid and I’d put money on that being about the 3rd best QB.
But, by all means.... Blah Blah Blah Rawl Tyde
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:41 am to Shameless
For reference Coral had 3337yds/29TD/14INT with 70% through 10 games and he’s your consensus #1 or #2 
Brennan has attempted 201 Career passes, Coral has attempted 526.
Brennan has attempted 201 Career passes, Coral has attempted 526.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:47 am to TheXman
1) Corral - OM
2) Daniels - UGA
3) Bazelak - Mizzou
4) Brennan - LSU
5) Rodgers - MSU
6) Nix - AU
7) Bailey - UT
8) Seals - VANDY
9) E Jones - UF
Not ranking guys who haven’t played enough snaps.
I think Brennan could have a huge year at LSU, was impressed with him early and think the talent around him will be improved on the OL. They will throw a lot and he will put up numbers IMO.
Corral I can’t figure and hate having him #1. Never seen a guy capable of looking like an early NFL draft pick one game and needing to be benched the next. I think another year with Kiffin helping him to understand his reads will be huge.
Daniels is good enough to win the SEC with the talent around him, but the lack of a quality deep ball is going to cause him problems against better defenses which I think will be improved across the league next year.
Emory Jones. Dude looked awful when I saw him in limited snaps last year. I have faith in Mullen developing QBs and running plays to their strengths like Kiffin does, but going from Trask to him is going to be tough.
Lot of these guys are wildcards. No idea if Nix can thrive in a new system. Was impressed out of high school, but not sure if his regression was due to coaching or his limitations.
The talent for UT and Vandy is going to be so bad it’s tough to think those two QBs will thrive. No weapons, no blocking... not good.
2) Daniels - UGA
3) Bazelak - Mizzou
4) Brennan - LSU
5) Rodgers - MSU
6) Nix - AU
7) Bailey - UT
8) Seals - VANDY
9) E Jones - UF
Not ranking guys who haven’t played enough snaps.
I think Brennan could have a huge year at LSU, was impressed with him early and think the talent around him will be improved on the OL. They will throw a lot and he will put up numbers IMO.
Corral I can’t figure and hate having him #1. Never seen a guy capable of looking like an early NFL draft pick one game and needing to be benched the next. I think another year with Kiffin helping him to understand his reads will be huge.
Daniels is good enough to win the SEC with the talent around him, but the lack of a quality deep ball is going to cause him problems against better defenses which I think will be improved across the league next year.
Emory Jones. Dude looked awful when I saw him in limited snaps last year. I have faith in Mullen developing QBs and running plays to their strengths like Kiffin does, but going from Trask to him is going to be tough.
Lot of these guys are wildcards. No idea if Nix can thrive in a new system. Was impressed out of high school, but not sure if his regression was due to coaching or his limitations.
The talent for UT and Vandy is going to be so bad it’s tough to think those two QBs will thrive. No weapons, no blocking... not good.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:52 am to tide06
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Daniels is good enough to win the SEC with the talent around him, but the lack of a quality deep ball is going to cause him problems against better defenses which I think will be improved across the league next year.
The hope is that his deep ball accuracy, which has been good enough for completions, improves with a full off season.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:56 am to BLG
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In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
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In 2020 Brennan was 60.3%, 8.5 yards per attempt, 154.7 qb rating
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But you know who Brennan was more similar to?
Kellen Mond, who was 63.3%, 7.7 ypa , 146.9 qb rating
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so as not to confuse any readers, in 2020 Mac Jones was 77.4%, 11.2 yards per attempt, with a qb rating of 203.1
All of that to say my statement stands
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:34 am to SidewalkTiger
Mac Jones in 2019 was more similar to Joe Burrow 2019 than to Myles Brennan in 2020.
In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
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In 2019 Burrow was 76.3%, 10.8 yards per attempt, with a 202 qb rating.
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In 2020 Brennan was 60.3%, 8.5 yards per attempt, 154.7 qb rating
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do you need me to do the math for you?
In completion pct Burrow was 7.6% better than Jones in 2019, and Jones was 8.5% better than Brennan in 2020.
In yards per attempt Burrow was 0.1 ypa better than Jones in 2019, who was 2.3 ypa better than Brennan in 2020.
In qb rating Burrow was 15.2 points higher than Jones in 2019, who was 32.1 points higher rated than Myles Brennan in 2020.
The moral of the story is that "similar" is a subjective term, which makes it easier to spin, though obviously Mac Jones in 2019 was more "similar" to your best qb ever than he was to 2020 Myles Brennan. Statistics are empirical and objective but I realize that math is hard for some people.
reminder for the readers that those are Mac Jones 2019 numbers because that's how the poster wanted to compare Jones to Brennan. Mac Jones' 2020 numbers for completion pct, yards per attempt, and qb rating were better than Joe Burrow in his best year.
In 2019 Jones was 68.8%. 10.7 yards per attempt, with 186.8 qb rating
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In 2019 Burrow was 76.3%, 10.8 yards per attempt, with a 202 qb rating.
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In 2020 Brennan was 60.3%, 8.5 yards per attempt, 154.7 qb rating
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do you need me to do the math for you?
In completion pct Burrow was 7.6% better than Jones in 2019, and Jones was 8.5% better than Brennan in 2020.
In yards per attempt Burrow was 0.1 ypa better than Jones in 2019, who was 2.3 ypa better than Brennan in 2020.
In qb rating Burrow was 15.2 points higher than Jones in 2019, who was 32.1 points higher rated than Myles Brennan in 2020.
The moral of the story is that "similar" is a subjective term, which makes it easier to spin, though obviously Mac Jones in 2019 was more "similar" to your best qb ever than he was to 2020 Myles Brennan. Statistics are empirical and objective but I realize that math is hard for some people.
reminder for the readers that those are Mac Jones 2019 numbers because that's how the poster wanted to compare Jones to Brennan. Mac Jones' 2020 numbers for completion pct, yards per attempt, and qb rating were better than Joe Burrow in his best year.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:07 pm to Mr Sausage
quote:there's nothing in his game stats that suggest he couldn't have potentially been a candidate at the end of the year
Brennan was well on his way to a Heisman prior to starting this past season.
what is up with these morons?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:10 pm to swinetime
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Is LSU the new Auburn 2011
have you seen lsu's returning roster? this thread is bringing out the trailer park fans
quote:except brennan has already proved he's pretty darn good
they were always clamoring about Cam 2.0
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a fluke season
lsu on one of the best 20 year runs in cfb history but, yeah, fluke season quote:maybe. but lsu has plenty of reason for optimistic outlook next season
only to fire their coach a couple years later
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:11 pm to bamameister
quote:that would just make lsu like every other great team with a solid returning qb
Had Brennan been healthy, Johnson would still be a complete mystery
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:15 pm to BLG
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60% isn't at all good
60% after the rantards went on and on about how much lsu was losing and how awful orgeron and co are can't have it both ways
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:19 pm to BLG
quote:so brennan's numbers in his first starting season weren't terribly far off from a much more experienced qb on a much, much better team that returned a much more stable roster and coaching staff. i'll take that
Kellen Mond, who was 63.3%, 7.7 ypa , 146.9 qb rating
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:23 pm to BLG
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Mac Jones' 2020 numbers for completion pct, yards per attempt, and qb rating were better than Joe Burrow in his best year.
with fewer games, schedule interruptions, illnesses, no real fall camp, a joke of a ncg opponent i've said this before, if jones had the same numbers without all of the above, then yeah, let's compare him to burrow. but in reality, it's not even a conversation. jones played in an incomplete asterisk of a season
anyone who watched brennan knows he looked really really good and wasn't the problem for lsu. no reason to think he won't be one of the better qb's in the sec with tons of weapons at skill positions
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:30 pm to bfniii
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anyone who watched brennan knows he looked really really good and wasn't the problem for lsu. no reason to think he won't be one of the better qb's in the sec with tons of weapons at skill positions
Brennan showed some talent and had some big yardage games, but he also had some issues.
For one thing, his 3rd down performance (which is pretty important) was dreadful.
12/26 (46%)
101 Yards
3.9 YPA
2 TD/ 2 INT
88.8 QB Rating
He was 18th out of 19 SEC QBs in QB Rating on 3rd down - only in front of Max Johnson who was at 87.99.
12. Bo Nix - 112.33
13. Jarrett Guarantano - 109.73
14. Ken Seals - 105.40
15. Terry Wilson - 104.88
16. Luke Doty - 101.33
17. Will Rogers - 94.43
18. Myles Brennan - 88.78
19. Max Johnson - 87.99
And those numbers were against Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Missouri - not Alabama and Georgia. Now, maybe that was a coordinator issue, I dunno. But it definitely has to be better next season.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:31 pm to DallasTiger45
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2) Corral
Guy sucks arse
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:33 pm to TheXman
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1) Corral - OM
2) Daniels - UGA
3) Bazelak - Mizzou
4) Brennan - LSU
5) Rodgers - MSU
6) Young - BAMA
7) Nix - AU
8) Seals - VANDY
9) Emory Jones - UF
10) Bailey - UT
11) King - A&M
12) ARK - no clue
13) UK - no clue
14) USC - no clue
ETA: Guys like Young, King, Bailey, & Jones obviously have potential to flucuate a lot
Corral threw 11 interceptions against Arkansas and LSU. He’s a piece of shite qb. LSU has 3 that are better
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