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re: SEC old timers, any thoughts on Shug Jordan?

Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:23 pm to
Idiot.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:24 pm to
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Shug asked me to turn around and pull two copies of "Saturday's to Remember" that he co-wrote.

Shug didn't co-write "Saturdays to Remember".

David Housel wrote it alone.

I'm sure David heard many of the inside details from Shug and I'm not disputing the rest of your story, just pointing out that Shug didn't co-write it.

FWIW, my Dad was a QB on Auburn's/Shug's 1957 National Championship team.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:24 pm to
Pathetic little bitch, aren’t you?
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:52 pm to
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Maybe in the later days, but Shug won a National Title before Bear did.


If the polls were done after bowl games Bryant very well might have won one in 1950. (Jeff Sagarin's rankings did declare Kentucky the champions).
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 10:36 am to
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Pathetic little bitch, aren’t you?


It’s true though. Shug is embarrassingly over rated and was a mediocre coach. He was convicted of cheating while HC at Auburn, he won exactly ONE SEC Championship, and that was before Bryant even got to Alabama. And he did that while on NCAA probation for cheating.

Incredibly mediocre.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 6:48 am to
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He was convicted of cheating while HC at Auburn,

You don't have a fricking clue you POS.

Do a little research on Don Fuell and then get back to us. First of all, no one gets "convicted" by the NCAA dumbass. Secondly, if you are not aware of the relationship between Bear and Walt Byers,then you are an even bigger moron than I give you credit for.

My Dad played for Shug from '56 -'59, so I am very familiar with what happened. I won't go into detail even though you are probably not intelligent enough to do the research yourself.

Let me ask you a question. I truly don't expect to get an HONEST answer from you, but will ask it anyway.

Do you think Bear Bryant ever gave any players any benefits that were against the NCAA rules?

I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by RollDawgRoll
Member since Sep 2009
1944 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:08 am to
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It’s true though. Shug is embarrassingly over rated and was a mediocre coach


Only at auburn would they put a mediocre name on a stadium. They should at least change it Jordan-Hare-Chizik stadium.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26694 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:59 am to
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Only at auburn would they put a mediocre name on a stadium

bama named their stadium after George Denny who was a massive POS
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:13 am to
My father knew Coach Jordan thru his work with FCA. I saw many Auburn players speak at my Dad’s churches. My Dad said Coach Jordan was the finest Gentleman he ever had the privilege to know. All I need to know right there.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:41 am to
My dad was born in 1947, so basically his life began as the rivalry renewed. He always talks about, outside of a couple of big upsets for Bama, the "rivalry" wasn't really intense until the 80s, mostly because Bama held a big advantagein the series and accrued more acclaim. It meant a great deal, and there were lots of jokes back and forth, but no real vitriolic sentiment for the most part during Shug's years.

Wrong or right, he attributes it to the respect people had for both Coach Bryant and Coach Jordan. It was hard to hate a rival to any real degree when you admired the hell out of their coach.

Coach Jordan was an amazing American among many others of WWII service. Coach Bryant is known for saying, "Shug has more courage in his little finger than I've got in my entire body." That was likely true compared to most all of us, even today. And, at least for my own dad, that is a large part of what made the rivalry more civil and respectable during his time compared to trashy idiots poisoning trees and calling Pawl today.

This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 10:43 am
Posted by DropKick70
South Beach
Member since Jul 2011
1043 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:03 am to
If you look at Gen. Patton's Jeep you will notice that it has " War Eagle" on the bottom of the windshield. As I understand it that was compliments to Shug and Auburn. Lots of opinions about that.

LINK
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15796 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:34 am to
Landed at Normandy.

Also Sicily.
And North Africa.
And Okinawa.

Bear Bryant said, “Shug has more courage in his little finger than I have in my whole body.”
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:40 am to
I've never cared enough to research it, but have discovered in conversations over the years on a similar topic that there is a connection.

I'm not sure there was any direct connection to Shug Jordan that inspired the War Eagle tag on that jeep pic, but a heavy influence of AU and old school rank likely led to it. Patton was stationed at Ft. Benning prior to the war with the 2nd Armored Division, which he would later command.

During that time, he was noted as "admiring the fighting spirit" of AU in the DSOR played in Columbus, GA. He also became a big fan of Monk Gafford (who he called the best back he'd ever seen). I'm sure the "war eagle" motto resonated with him as well.

Until 1951, the rank of COL had an eagle on the right side facing the laurels (peace) and the left side facing the arrows (known as the War Eagle).

The 2 Cavalry Regiment had early ties in WWII under Patton's command, known as the Ghosts of Patton. Today, the 1st Squadron, 2 Cav Rgmt uses the War Eagle call sign.

There are other ties to the "War Eagle" motto and influence from a Wisconsin unit (Old Abe), which even influenced the 101st Mascot.

Would be an interesting topic to look at some time to seperate fact from fiction/urban legend.
Posted by all4AU
Member since Oct 2009
499 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 12:01 pm to
Great explanation of the Iron Bowl dynamics before the 80s. That makes sense because Shug always said Georgia was his favorite rivalry game. AU and Bama didn’t play when Shug was a player at Auburn.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 1:35 pm to
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I always thought he looked like a fine Southern gentleman.


You're so right, Carl.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 2:17 pm to
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You're so right, Carl.

...and we were indeed fortunate!
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